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To: goldenstategirl
I will explain the point of my thread. At the time of the Reformation there were many in the church who were alarmed at abuses. Luther was not alone in his call for reform. Protestants who were expelled or who left the RCC church are blasted or praised on FR. Dissidents who remained Catholic in doctrine but expressed serious objections are not often discussed.

In this context, Erasmus' Julius Exclusus illustrates some of the serious issues that troubled Erasmus (and others, eg. Dante). Erasmus used humor (quite biting at that) to make what for him was a deadly serious critique. Julius Exclusus was written anonymously [almost all now attribute it to Erasmus] for what I think are obvious reasons.

In the thread when I was asked what I thought of the merits issue, I answered very briefly and directly with no elaboration. I honestly believe your offense should be directed first and foremost to Erasmus, the author. Perhaps my explanation of my motive in publishing this thread is helpful.

41 posted on 05/02/2002 5:57:31 AM PDT by drstevej
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To: drstevej
But you're not Catholic are you? You are a Baptist pastor. If I posted something that made fun of Baptists or pastors then you would rightly be offended regardless of who wrote it.

Yes, there are doctrinal differences between us. Yes, the Catholic Church has experienced corruption but so has every other denomination. That's what happens with imperfect human beings.

If you want to debate doctrinal differences that's one thing. You and your friends enjoyed this piece because it made fun of something you don't like-Catholics. That's the part I take issue with. You are a pastor and a PhD. You are supposed to lead and set an example. If this is what you teach then I understand all the hatred out there. I expected better behavior from a pastor, PhD, and a person who's knowledge I respected in the past.

42 posted on 05/02/2002 11:33:59 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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