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The True Eucharist
Sapphires | Jonathan Cahn

Posted on 04/26/2002 9:01:52 AM PDT by WhatNot

Many churches focus on the "eucharist," which for them means the bread of the Lord's Supper. Other believer's don't think the concept of the eucharist is Biblical. But the concept of "eucharist" is Biblical. The word "eucharist" comes from the Greek "eu" meaning "good" and "charis" meaning "grace" or "blessing." The eucharist at the Last Supper was not the bread itself, but the blessing Messiah said over the bread. The blessing is one said in Jewish homes to this day: "Baruch Atah Adonai Elohaynu Melech Ha Olam, Ha Motzee Lechem Min Ha Aretz" - "Blessed are You O Lord Our God, King of the Universe, Who brings forth bread from the earth." This is the true eucharist.

The true eucharist is never eaten, it is given. It is a blessing of thanks to God. It's not the bread, it is the blessing over the bread. And this distinction can change your life. Life doesn't consist of the things you have, but the blessings you say over them. You only truly have what you bless and give thanks for. Give the blessing of thanks over your, bread - your parents, your family, your friends, your situation - over everything, good and bad. And your life itself will be truly blessed, for such is the true eucharist.

Luke 22:14-20

TODAY'S MISSION

Prepare a private communion service today, with you and Messiah. Lift up to Him those things that need to receive His blessing - your loved ones, your job, your ministry.


TOPICS: General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: catholiclist; devotion
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To: oremus;Wrigley;History_matters
Your answer is in the 2 transcripts I posted above re: Mary. Please read then we can discuss.

History set the rules if it is not in the bible it is not true..I was glad to have him join the sola scripture crowd

341 posted on 04/30/2002 8:09:11 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Askel5
Your post does not address what I honestly believe is the the real problem. I am afraid that RCism is as bad as I have been saying publicly and that it is even as bad as I have been saying privately.

And to get back to the topic of this thread, I will say that your doctrine of drinking literal human blood and eating literal human flesh is actually a weird example of this (even though it is by no means what appalls Protestants the most about the RCC).

This would also appear to be why the RCs got OP banned from the Forum for so much as stating your own RC position clearly a week or two ago. Your own doctrine is offensive to you when someone points out what you are saying.

I cheerfully default to the non-nauseating spiritual explanation offered by the Protestants. Remember: The Lord Jesus said He used metaphors, not to instruct His enemies, but to confound them. And when we Protestants consider your interpretation of the Lord's Supper in that light, and place it alongside every thing else Rome has taught and done, we Protestants are sobered.

That's why we speak to you about it publicly in some cases and privately in other cases.

342 posted on 04/30/2002 8:10:09 PM PDT by the_doc
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To: the_doc
I will say that your doctrine of drinking literal human blood and eating literal human flesh is actually a weird example of this

Good for you. You're in agreement with all those who also walked away from Him in John Chapter 6.

You Protestants love to take scripture literally when it suits you, and symbolically when it doesn't.

343 posted on 04/30/2002 8:13:12 PM PDT by oremus
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To: the_doc
I will say that your doctrine of drinking literal human blood and eating literal human flesh is actually a weird example of this

John Ch 6: It's a hard saying, isn't it, doc?

344 posted on 04/30/2002 8:16:23 PM PDT by oremus
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To: RnMomof7
History set the rules if it is not in the bible it is not true..I was glad to have him join the sola scripture crowd

Sola scriptura is your claim, and it has failed you. I have set no rules, but of course you know that already, so do please read and interact with oremus and those posts.

345 posted on 04/30/2002 8:16:53 PM PDT by history_matters
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To: RnMomof7
Why won't you read the articles?

And while you're at it, where's the scripture which supports Sola Scriptura? It has to be there, or your theory falls flat on it's face.

346 posted on 04/30/2002 8:19:39 PM PDT by oremus
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To: history_matters;Jerry_M;OrthodoxPresbyterian.CCWoody;the_doc;Matchett-PI;Jean Chauvin;Wrigley...
What would be your Scripture supporting your assertions concerning and regarding Calvinists and their level of intelligence compared to the average freeper?

Pro 9:10 The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy [is] understanding.

So history do you REALLY fear they Lord...ask any Calvinist and they will tell you that they do! :>))

347 posted on 04/30/2002 8:21:31 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
The beautiful Scripture from Proverbs does not support your contention. Your assertion with regard to the intelligence of Calvinists over that of the average FReeper is merely your extra-Biblical opinion.
348 posted on 04/30/2002 8:23:27 PM PDT by history_matters
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To: history_matters
Still waiting for my scripture verse.
349 posted on 04/30/2002 8:26:00 PM PDT by oremus
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To: the_doc
This would also appear to be why the RCs got OP banned from the Forum for so much as stating your own RC position clearly a week or two ago.

This quote from your post is factually incorrect. Roman Catholics did not get Opie banned, and Opie did not clearly state the Roman Catholic position.

350 posted on 04/30/2002 8:26:03 PM PDT by history_matters
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To: history_matters
You have set the rules..you just can not play with them here..
351 posted on 04/30/2002 8:26:37 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: oremus
Still waiting for my scripture verse.

Don't hold your breath. LOL

352 posted on 04/30/2002 8:27:04 PM PDT by history_matters
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To: oremus
I was raised RC .I know the errors up close
353 posted on 04/30/2002 8:27:27 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Again, you misrepresent me. I wonder why you feel you need to do that ... as a means to avoid discussion with oremus? Sola scriptura is something you embraced when you disavowed the Catholic Church. It is your burden, not mine.
354 posted on 04/30/2002 8:29:33 PM PDT by history_matters
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To: the_doc
EUCHARIST: HOLY MEAL
355 posted on 04/30/2002 8:30:47 PM PDT by oremus
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To: history_matters;wrigley;editor-surveyor
You are right when I chose this proverb Pro 9:10 The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy [is] understanding.
I should have said that the Calvinists were smarter that the average freeper on this thread..then the proverb is 100% true..

Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.....now that applies:>)

356 posted on 04/30/2002 8:32:36 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Just because you were raised RC doesn't mean you ever were taught the faith in the first place. Guaranteed you were never taught, or bothered to study later, that which you left. Read the articles, you may be pleasantly surprised. You need to learn about Catholicism from sources other than Protestant ones, then you can make your decision.
357 posted on 04/30/2002 8:32:52 PM PDT by oremus
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To: oremus
Trust me...I know...and History's right if it is not in the Bible I am not buying:>))
358 posted on 04/30/2002 8:34:14 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: the_doc
THE LORD'S SUPPER: THE FOURTH CUP
359 posted on 04/30/2002 8:34:35 PM PDT by oremus
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To: RnMomof7
You still did not give me the scriptural backing for Sola Scriptura. If it's not in the Bible, it's not true, right? So?
360 posted on 04/30/2002 8:35:30 PM PDT by oremus
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