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To: CindyDawg
I believe in the free will to decide if you want to accept and follow Jesus. Make sure you read the fine print before you commit though, because you can't lose it or take it back. He corrects but doesn't let go of what is His.

OK. So no free will prior to salvation (you can't choose to be good since you are incurably wicked) and no free will after salvation since God won't allow you to reject Him once you've decided. You get one split second of free will when you choose Him (and none at all if you never do). Or is it no free will at all?

You a Calvinist?

52,847 posted on 05/12/2003 10:51:42 AM PDT by IMRight
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To: IMRight
You a Calvinist?

Yeah. A free-willed one :') What's wrong? You seem upset about something.

52,851 posted on 05/12/2003 10:57:00 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: IMRight; All
OK. So no free will prior to salvation (you can't choose to be good since you are incurably wicked) and no free will after salvation since God won't allow you to reject Him once you've decided. You get one split second of free will when you choose Him (and none at all if you never do). Or is it no free will at all?

It’s amazing how you and other Works Based Salvation Believers, can dispute Scriptural Eternal Salvation when we give you enough rope to allow you to stray out of the scriptural pasture, and into the swamp of reason and philosophy.

Romans 4:4-5 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
V-5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

-- Living Bible Romans 4:4 But didn't he earn his right to heaven by all the good things he did? No, for being saved is a gift; if a person could earn it by being good, then it wouldn't be free--but it is! It is given to those who do not work for it. For God declares sinners to be good in his sight if they have faith in Christ to save them from God's wrath.

Now instead or giving me man’s reasoning, first disprove what Paul made so clearly here in the KJV.

Take each point Paul makes, and give us some reasonable explanation what he was trying to tell us,that he had so much trouble with.

JH :-)

52,861 posted on 05/12/2003 11:13:08 AM PDT by JHavard (Never accept a free gift from a Catholic, you'll receive a bill at the end of the month. :-)----)
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