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To: ventana
Well ventana,you are right. One of us is interpreting wrong. Multiple verses have been posted to you supporting OSAS. One even by Paul but you insist this 1 verse is correct and all the others mean something else. Be honest. Aren't you accusing us of what you are doing? This morning on the way to the gym I was thinking about what it would be like for me if I believed in faith by works. Would I be running scared and be compulsive to always be doing something so I would be saved? What a burden. I'll stick to saved by grace and let the Lord lead me in what he wants me to do with my life. I want my "good works" for Him to come from my heart and not because I'm trying to buy my salvation. In Heaven, any rewards I have earned will be extras. I will just be so happy to be there.
51,643 posted on 05/06/2003 7:06:04 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg
This morning on the way to the gym I was thinking about what it would be like for me if I believed in faith by works.

Well, since none of us believe that, that was an odd thing to think about. Try salvation by grace, through both faith and works, as two sides of the same coin. As cooperation with God's grace in order to bring about a person actually worthy of heaven, instead of a sinner merely "acquitted" of the charges.

SD

51,645 posted on 05/06/2003 7:14:42 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: CindyDawg
I am sorry to say, Cindy, that I don't think you are following the arguement.

I am not interpreting scripture so much as showing you that your interpretation cannot get around Paul's, James', and others clear warnings to the contrary.

It is not a matter of your Scripture cancelling out my Scripture. Both are correct, and so both must be read and understood in such a way as to agree with the truth found in each. Paul says, James says, that you are not saved if you fail to persevere to the end. This is not what OSAS attests. Therefore the Scriptures you use to justify your doctrine are being interpreted wrongly.

You also mischaracterise my belief as "Faith by works" and that I am buying my salvation. It is not surprising that you feel that way but again, the truth is in the proper application of scripture. You need to read it, daring to believe that you may have been lead astray, not refusing to see the plain truth.

v.
51,657 posted on 05/06/2003 7:29:21 AM PDT by ventana
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