[SoothingDave]

Since both of us have different understandings of what happenes when we're baptized

Fine. Then could you ever be plucked out of the grasp of Jesus your savior? Or when you got saved was it something permanent that God did, no matter what you do?

SD

[JHavard]

Fine. Then could you ever be plucked out of the grasp of Jesus your savior? Or when you got saved was it something permanent that God did, no matter what you do?

If I had been a pedophile or a fornicator, God would not have had me in his hand to start with.

JH :-)