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To: SoothingDave
I'll answer. Yes we repeat the same sins at times. Some of us ( myself included don't seem to always learn the first time, all the time). Hopefully though, we eventually learn from our mistakes and correct them. If in the process we are considered a danger to society though, we need to be placed where we can't hurt others. Praying for forgiveness AND correcting wrong behavior is the true sign of repentance to me.

In this day and age I will not leave my little ones alone with a catholic priest, baptist minister,or any other church leader. We now have to teach our children that some men "even in church" are bad and tell them what to do if ever touched inappropriately. This is what a few non-repenting "bad apples" have done to our society and the secular part loves it, and it isn't just happening in the catholic churches. Yall have made mistakes and have big problems but bad things happen in other churches too. Intense screening, observation, and how we deal with this, has got to be major concerns for us.

51,003 posted on 05/01/2003 1:03:24 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg
I'll answer. Yes we repeat the same sins at times. Some of us ( myself included don't seem to always learn the first time, all the time). Hopefully though, we eventually learn from our mistakes and correct them.

Thank you. Tha's all I wanted to hear. Yes, we should grow to avoid the sin at all times, but we will always at some time fail.

Just because you repeat the sin does nto mean you are unrepentent, or that your penitence the first time you confessed was not genuine.

If in the process we are considered a danger to society though, we need to be placed where we can't hurt others. Praying for forgiveness AND correcting wrong behavior is the true sign of repentance to me.

I never said anything contrary to the idea of removing harmful men from positions where they can do harm. My only point has been with those who wish to condemn them and judge whether they have any faith or repentence at all. And thereby attempt to make a point about the validity of sacraments based upon this judgment.

SD

51,009 posted on 05/01/2003 1:09:31 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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