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I'll answer. Yes we repeat the same sins at times. Some of us ( myself included don't seem to always learn the first time, all the time). Hopefully though, we eventually learn from our mistakes and correct them.

Thank you. Tha's all I wanted to hear. Yes, we should grow to avoid the sin at all times, but we will always at some time fail.

Just because you repeat the sin does nto mean you are unrepentent, or that your penitence the first time you confessed was not genuine.

If in the process we are considered a danger to society though, we need to be placed where we can't hurt others. Praying for forgiveness AND correcting wrong behavior is the true sign of repentance to me.

I never said anything contrary to the idea of removing harmful men from positions where they can do harm. My only point has been with those who wish to condemn them and judge whether they have any faith or repentence at all. And thereby attempt to make a point about the validity of sacraments based upon this judgment.

And thereby attempt to make a point about the validity of sacraments based upon this judgment.

I think this is where many of us are getting confused in this conversation. Most NC's don't believe sacraments "get you to heaven" (for lack of a better term). So your point about whether or not the sacraments remain legit flys right past us. In the end there are sins committed that disqualify a person from the ministry and some that don't.