Dave you're are missing his point, if a man does these things over a long peroid of time, he is doing it on his choice and overlooking what God had said about such a thing, and this man is probably not saved according to what God says in His word to this man, it is God judging the man not us. We just read what God says in His word and compare them to what this man has done and we say "Oh no" according to what God had said this man is in deep trouble and does not really know God as his savior, because there is no repentence in him.
BigMack
Dave you're are missing his point, if a man does these things over a long peroid of time, he is doing it on his choice and overlooking what God had said about such a thing, and this man is probably not saved according to what God says in His word to this man, it is God judging the man not us. No, it is you. You are assuming that he is unrepentent. Based on only the evidence that the sin is repeated. Which is why I asked the great unanswered question about whether you guys ever sin the same sin again after repenting.
You could be the first to answer it.
The point is that we do not know for sure if such a man is repentent or not. We can not judge him. We can say, it sure as hell looks like he's damned, but we can not say for sure.
All of ipev's arguments rest upon being sure in this knowledge. That is not our call to make.
We just read what God says in His word and compare them to what this man has done and we say "Oh no" according to what God had said this man is in deep trouble and does not really know God as his savior, because there is no repentence in him.
You judge "repentence" how?
SD