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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Dave you're are missing his point, if a man does these things over a long peroid of time, he is doing it on his choice and overlooking what God had said about such a thing, and this man is probably not saved according to what God says in His word to this man, it is God judging the man not us.

No, it is you. You are assuming that he is unrepentent. Based on only the evidence that the sin is repeated. Which is why I asked the great unanswered question about whether you guys ever sin the same sin again after repenting.

You could be the first to answer it.

The point is that we do not know for sure if such a man is repentent or not. We can not judge him. We can say, it sure as hell looks like he's damned, but we can not say for sure.

All of ipev's arguments rest upon being sure in this knowledge. That is not our call to make.

We just read what God says in His word and compare them to what this man has done and we say "Oh no" according to what God had said this man is in deep trouble and does not really know God as his savior, because there is no repentence in him.

You judge "repentence" how?

SD

51,005 posted on 05/01/2003 1:06:17 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
You judge "repentence" how?

Ever hear of crocodile tears?

BigMack

51,012 posted on 05/01/2003 1:11:43 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: SoothingDave; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
The point is that we do not know for sure if such a man is repentent or not. We can not judge him. We can say, it sure as hell looks like he's damned, but we can not say for sure.

"Father Porter? "Father" Shanley?
51,027 posted on 05/01/2003 1:27:35 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE ((I am a cult of one! UNITARJEWMIAN))
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To: SoothingDave
All of ipev's arguments rest upon being sure in this knowledge. That is not our call to make

Your right. No, one but the person can know, and yes I for one, commit some sins over and over:( Don't you?

As hard as it is to admit and understand in human terms, I believe that a priest who commits these crimes over and over, could also be truly repentent, only God would know. The earthly consequences of that sin would be that once people found out about it the person would/should be treated like the slug that he is, but his eternal judgement is up to God. I have faith that God's judgements are what they should be.

Becky

51,028 posted on 05/01/2003 1:27:43 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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