[JHavard]

For there is no sacrament without a minister. The sacrament is brought about through the minister. That's the way Jesus chose to bring it about. I believe that was Dave's original point - though his post was actually in reference to other sacraments.

Where did you come up with this one?

The disciples weren’t ministers when Christ gave them the example, and when Paul told the church at Corinth they were doing it wrong, and carefully explained how it should be done, they weren’t ministers and he never alluded they had to be.

Scripture please

JH

[trad_anglican]

The disciples weren’t ministers when Christ gave them the example, and when Paul told the church at Corinth they were doing it wrong, and carefully explained how it should be done, they weren’t ministers and he never alluded they had to be.

You and I will surely disagree over who is a valid minister for the eucharist. I would be suprised if you are saying that it happens by itself, without some person following Paul's instructions.

My point was only that a minister is necessary. Which minister is a discussion for another day.