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To: ventana; SoothingDave; JHavard; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
These are the nastiest things bandied about on this thread:

"You are not a Christian"
"You are a Pagan"
"You are not Saved"
etc.

They are not commonly uttered by Dave or any Catholic I can recall, but certainly are a commonplace from NCs


I have a database of almost 50,000 Neverending posts and, since I don't have the same perception as you, I decided to do a search on your terms.

Results follow:

"You are not a Christian"

I found one. Coincidentally from a Calvinist who has been banned from this thread, to an NC,

"You are not a Christian Doug...You belong to a cult..Your doctrine is a heresy."
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

"You are a Pagan"

I found none. None!
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

"You are not Saved"

I did find a few.

"Baptism .. now saves us" means that without baptism you are not saved. So Baptism removes Original Sin. Those who die in sin go to hell."

Not nasty, and posted by that wild NC, SoothingDave.
................................................................................

"If you are not saved forever, then you are not saved. Let me say it again. If you are not saved forever, then you are not saved."

Posted by JHavard, contained in a paper by Hank Lindstrum, pastor Calvary Community Church of Tampa. FL.
......................................................................................

"If you do not believe in your own salvation by/because of the power of God, you are not saved."

Posted by Becky.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I can't guarantee that I have found all instances but I am relatively certain I have done so.

Pretty nasty stuff isn't it?

Unless you can show otherwise I think you owe all NC's, who you have falsely accused, an apology.

49,726 posted on 04/29/2003 4:43:10 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE ((I am a cult of one! UNITARJEWMIAN))
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To: OLD REGGIE; Havoc; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; Invincibly Ignorant
I believe if you expand your search terms you may get a few more results that, while not exact quotes, carry the same meaning. For advice on how best to conduct the search, I might suggest asking how Havoc prefers to intimate that Catholics are not Christian, or that those who say the Rosary are Pagans. You might also ask Steven to clarify how one could belong to a paganized church and conduct ceremonies to Pagan dieties and not be a pagan. Lastly, I seem to recall several instances where BigMac has held that it is damning to hold to a theology that requires works, he may have a preferred phraseology as well.

Nevertheless, knowing as I do how the rest of you do consider us RCs to be members in good standing in the Christian brotherhood, I do freely apologise to anyone out there who feels they need one, most especialy those listed here, and thank you Reggie for taking the trouble to dispel my misperception.

Sorry.
v.
49,735 posted on 04/29/2003 5:14:30 PM PDT by ventana
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To: OLD REGGIE
Unless you can show otherwise I think you owe all NC's, who you have falsely accused, an apology.

Just like the typically literalist to act in a typically literalist way.

Searching for strings is easy. Try searching for sentiment.

Like when I was referred to as "the Beast" earlier yesterday.

(Oh, I know I wasn't really, I am just imagining things. When one person responds to me and a second warns the first not to talk directly to "the Beast" it, of course, has nothing to do with me. I know how you argue.)

SD

50,305 posted on 04/30/2003 7:31:36 AM PDT by SoothingDave (It might behoove me to be heaved)
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