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To: Invincibly Ignorant; SoothingDave
Makes ya wonder how a self-proclaimed expert in Catholisism doesn't know a thing about the 12 tribes of Israel. That's some pretty basic stuff.

Funny the things that can happen when we type faster than we think.

Despite his confusion on the tribes issue, the psalm SD quoted did support his point. There are many references to "house of Israel" that refer to all of Israel, not only the northern Kingdom (which in fairness could be construed in that usage as referring to the lost tribes).

49,183 posted on 04/28/2003 2:38:43 PM PDT by trad_anglican
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To: trad_anglican
Despite his confusion on the tribes issue, the psalm SD quoted did support his point. There are many references to "house of Israel" that refer to all of Israel, not only the northern Kingdom (which in fairness could be construed in that usage as referring to the lost tribes).

Thank you. I was hoping somebody would bail him out. :-)

49,184 posted on 04/28/2003 2:42:29 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: trad_anglican; Invincibly Ignorant; SoothingDave
Despite his confusion on the tribes issue, the psalm SD quoted did support his point. There are many references to "house of Israel" that refer to all of Israel, not only the northern Kingdom (which in fairness could be construed in that usage as referring to the lost tribes).

Dave's point was that the Matthew 10:6 reference to "The House of Israel" specifically excluded the 10 lost tribes.
49,185 posted on 04/28/2003 2:50:52 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE ((I am a cult of one! UNITARJEWMIAN))
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To: trad_anglican; SoothingDave; OLD REGGIE; JHavard
Thanks Trad.

Let's also not forget the context of the usage of the phrase "Lost Sheep of the House of Israel." That is how he defined his own ministry in Mat 15:24. The charge he laid on the 12 in Mat 10:6 was to preach to the very same people he was sent to.

Since few here (I hope) would argue that Jesus was sent to preach not to the local Jews, but to lost Jews elsewhere, neither can they argue that that was the charge he laid on his disciples.

The connotation that lost sheep means the extant, regional Jewish populace is clear. And so it is also clear that Jesus was not using the term "House of Israel" to distinguish it from the "House of Judah" but was employing its legitimate all-inclusive meaning.

I will reiterate endlessly that "Lost Tribes" does not appear in the Bible, not because I am unaware of the 10 tribes, but because of the baggage that phrase carries as well as its irrelevance to this discussion.

v.
49,194 posted on 04/28/2003 3:28:49 PM PDT by ventana
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