I'm not guessing. It is the consistent teaching of the Church that Jesus was truly Mary's Son. If He did not get His humanity from His mother, where woudl He have gotten it?
it's in your churches tradition. Where did this come from. Scripture?
It is the consistent teaching of the Church. If you accept the Bible as ambiguous on the matter, then this is a good example of how "Sacred Tradition" helps us to understand Scripture.
And it does indeed make a huge difference, as I have said before, whether God assumes the human nature we already had, or if He started a new humanity. If He was not truly one of us, related by blood, then He could not have bridged the gap between God and man.
. No way could God have made him like He did Adam, huh?
Why is this point not coming across? Is there any NC out there who can help me make this point?
Cindy, I ask and state quite clearly the idea that if Jesus was not related to us, then He was not "one of us." And if He is not "one of us" then He is not Our Redeemer.
Do you understand this argument? What difficulties do you have with it?
Do you think that God Incarnating Jesus from existing, fallen humanity is different from "making" Jesus from scratch, like Adam was?
SD
Dave was spinning as usually and twisting my words and refusing to answer questions. This is not a catholic issue as far as I'm concerned. It's Dave in his own little world, making the rules up as he goes along.
This I'm hurt by.
When was I spinning? Even better, what questions of yours have I refused to answer?
Furthermore, if you think I am not representing authentic Catholic teachign and am instead just making up stuff as I go along, then provide me with either the Cahtolic documents against me, or with the numerous Catholics here on FR who have disagreed with me.
SD
Yall preach tradition to us all the time but let a fundamentalist, ONE TIME, step out and you tell them to get back in the book?
Yes. Those are your rules. "Bible only" is not a Catholic precept. We can expect you to abide by your own precepts, right?
SD
That is like a few baptist leaders getting together and saying, well since it isn't in scripture, we put ours heads together and came up with what we believe God forgot to tell us. Now, we'll pass then down, thru the generations and expect every church including the catholics to abide by it. You comfortable with that?
. No way could God have made him like He did Adam, huh? Why is this point not coming across? Is there any NC out there who can help me make this point?
Why? I can think for myself.
Cindy, I ask and state quite clearly the idea that if Jesus was not related to us, then He was not "one of us." And if He is not "one of us" then He is not Our Redeemer. Do you understand this argument? What difficulties do you have with it? Do you think that God Incarnating Jesus from existing, fallen humanity is different from "making" Jesus from scratch, like Adam was?
Haven't you figured it out yet? We are talking about two different issues. You are fighting for something you truly believe and I am just saying you may be right but I can't back it up with scripture and it really doesn't matter to me how God made it happen. You know, Like His will be done?