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Tradition" says that a child of Mary would have had to be female. I said with God all things are possible, and that I really didn't care how he made His SON.

Since we are dealign with a miracle, I don't see how you can say "tradition" would result in a girl child.

I do tend to lean that His body was probably cloned from Mary too. I'm guessing though and you are also. Scripture doesn't tell us. But you know what? It wouldn't make any difference to me.

I'm not guessing. It is the consistent teaching of the Church that Jesus was truly Mary's Son. If He did not get His humanity from His mother, where woudl He have gotten it?

And it does indeed make a huge difference, as I have said before, whether God assumes the human nature we already had, or if He started a new humanity. If He was not truly one of us, related by blood, then He could not have bridged the gap between God and man.

Instead He would have bridged the gap between God and this new straing of man, who was already without sin. So that there was no gap to bridge.

No offense intended but you are really being very disrespectful towards Mary here. You are telling her that if Jesus' physical body came from your body then I will worship and adore you and elevate you to a divine status but even though you carried him, birth him, and nutured him and loved Him , if you were just a surragate (isn't that the word you used?) then this changes everything.

No disrespect to surrogate mothers is meant, except for the fact that the idea is abhorrent.

Mary is the mother of Jesus. Truly. And He had to be a human like us. Like I said, I was astonished that anyone would think otherwise.

SD

I'll read this one this evening. I have to get back to work. I'm still waiting to here how you were baptized to remove your sins , when you didn't have any. Later

I'm not guessing. It is the consistent teaching of the Church that Jesus was truly Mary's Son. If He did not get His humanity from His mother, where woudl He have gotten it?

The same place Adam got his, from being made of the earth, and his earthly body and human spirit telling him what it wants to eat.

Adam had no mother, and he was the first to sin, so how did his sin get passed on to him?

JH :-)

Tradition" says that a child of Mary would have had to be female. I said with God all things are possible, and that I really didn't care how he made His SON. Since we are dealign with a miracle, I don't see how you can say "tradition" would result in a girl child.

Tradition is merely this is the way we have always done it, or the way we have always believed. Facts not needed and often resented. Stagnates change (good or bad). Scientists "traditionally believe a female does not determine a sex and that a woman cloned will produce a female.

I'm not guessing. It is the consistent teaching of the Church that Jesus was truly Mary's Son. If He did not get His humanity from His mother, where woudl He have gotten it?

it's in your churches tradition. Where did this come from. Scripture?

And it does indeed make a huge difference, as I have said before, whether God assumes the human nature we already had, or if He started a new humanity. If He was not truly one of us, related by blood, then He could not have bridged the gap between God and man.

. No way could God have made him like He did Adam, huh?

. No disrespect to surrogate mothers is meant, except for the fact that the idea is abhorrent. Mary is the mother of Jesus. Truly.

Physically or a surrogate. Yes she was. Either way she was blessed.