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There exists a threshold where the content of what is said overrides the accompanying disclaimer. Consider the anti-war protesters, who are always quick to assert "but we support our troops".

The organizers of the "peace riots" know that their protestations of support for the troops is a lie.

We obviously disagree as to whether or not this threshold was surpassed in these examples.

Obviously. I have been poking at this for days and I am still unable to get any specific answers.

What do you think makes Mary divine? Why are our "protestations" to the contrary ineffective?

Reggie almost answered, and was making some point about being born perfect as a human meanign one was divine. Why this is different from being born imperfect and then perfected later was not answered.

I make another analogy about roles that we would play in heaven, but there is no serious response to that.

So what is it that makes people see these things and assume that we consider Mary divine?

What do you think makes Mary divine?

Mary isn't divine. Some Catholics (undoubtedly a fewer percentage today than in times past) treat her as if she were functionally divine. They pray to her, hope for favors from her, and treat her as if she were omniscient and omnipotent. The title "Mediatrix of All Graces" says that all divine blessings must come through her.

And this isn't even considering the entire question of praying to (vs. for) the dead. I understand the Catholic reasoning on this, but I don't agree with it. The scriptural prohibitions against it are pretty plain.

I have never thought you or the RCC was implying that Mary was divine, but divine or not she is still not sinless. Especially being not divine: ALL have sinned and come short of the glory of God. There is NONE righteous NO NOT ONE.

Becky