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To: SoothingDave
What do you think makes Mary divine?

Mary isn't divine. Some Catholics (undoubtedly a fewer percentage today than in times past) treat her as if she were functionally divine. They pray to her, hope for favors from her, and treat her as if she were omniscient and omnipotent. The title "Mediatrix of All Graces" says that all divine blessings must come through her.

And this isn't even considering the entire question of praying to (vs. for) the dead. I understand the Catholic reasoning on this, but I don't agree with it. The scriptural prohibitions against it are pretty plain.

48,579 posted on 04/25/2003 11:50:56 AM PDT by malakhi (fundamentalist unitarian)
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To: malakhi
Mary isn't divine.

I think we both know that.

Some Catholics (undoubtedly a fewer percentage today than in times past) treat her as if she were functionally divine.

And some non-Catholics view any veneration as if the object is divine. And some NCs deny the way humans, including Mary, played a role in their own salvation, and that of others.

And when Catholics assert that, it is seen as equating God and the human, no matter how many times we contextualize it as the human being infinitely less than God.

They pray to her, hope for favors from her, and treat her as if she were omniscient and omnipotent.

If they do without recognizing that she is not a source of grace, but a channel of it, then they are in error.

The title "Mediatrix of All Graces" says that all divine blessings must come through her.

Yes. As all grace enters the world through Jesus, who entered the world through her. Understand, she is not given control of the graces. She does not create them, she does not control to whom they go, she does nothing and wields no authority or power that is not fully on loan from God and entirely in congruence with His Will.

And I'm not just saying that.

SD

48,586 posted on 04/25/2003 11:58:24 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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