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Enough of this nonsense, the first hurtle you have to get over if you intend to give your belief any serious weight by us NC’s, is to show us another family who would have been among the close followers of Christ, (possibly less then 200 of them near the cross), who had a mother named Mary, who’s husband was a carpenter, and a Son named Jesus who had at least two brothers named James and Joses.

It's like you've been staring at it too long. That "family" is right in front of your face. When Mary is named and the brothers of Jesus are named, that Mary is Mary, the mother of Jesus.

When the other Mary, the mother of James and Joses is mentioned it is a different Mary. It is right in front of your face. The Holy Spirit did not refer to the mother of Jesus as "the mother of James and Joses" nor did He refer to her as "the other Mary."

All I want Catholics to admit is that if people only follow the scripture for all there doctrines and beliefs, then you can understand why we believe as we do.

I have no problem with this. I'm not sure why you would think I would. Yes, the many misconceptions y'all have is exactly a result of not following the guide God left for us to help us understand Scripture.

It's like you've been staring at it too long. That "family" is right in front of your face. When Mary is named and the brothers of Jesus are named, that Mary is Mary, the mother of Jesus.

Okay……….

Is it possible that the Holy Spirit did not see Mary as someone to be venerated, and as just another blessed Jewish mother?

God’s Spirit isn’t concerned with protocol and positions of authority like men. When the Spirit zeroed in on one person, all others became secondary.

It was Barnabas and Saul, until Paul became the minister to the people, then it was Paul and Barnabas.

It was Mary, the mother of Jesus, until what had made her special died. Then the first woman mentioned was Mary Magdalene, and it was her that Christ appeared to first. Everything was about Peter until Paul came on the scene, then it was all about him.

It didn't mean God suddenly liked one over the other, it's just that their purpose had been fulfilled, and it was time to move onto the next phase.

Names are always listed in the order of age or of the importance to the writing. Peter over Andrew, James over Joses, James over John, and etc. The writers with God’s Spirit had no emotions ruling them, and everything written was sterile and, matter of fact.

JH :-)