The Neverending Story (The Christian Chronicles)

Associated Press ^ | 3/24/01

[malakhi]

The Neverending Story
An ongoing debate on Scripture, Tradition, History and Interpretation.

Statesmen may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is pure virtue. - John Adams

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[al_c]

You sure, because I saw it reported on the news that he vetoed it?

Nope. Never got to him.

[Invincibly Ignorant]

Not perpetually. It's unnecessary. I have already granted you your moral superiority over them. There is no need for this type of language.

You're so humble.

[CindyDawg]

What's the rationale for that? Here we rarely have an execution, but we do have "life is life."

Don't know unless they feel that it won't be enforced.

[malakhi]

In the interest of the innocent, we should avoid giving the ultimate sentence of death that can never be revoked.

In the interest of the innocent, the guilty should be punished appropriately.

http://www.fox19.com/Global/story.asp?S=1255086&nav=0zHFFY2h

James prichard, 23, admitted murdering his girlfriend, Carrie Smalling, last april. Smalling is the mother of their child.

A judge sentenced Prichard from Northern Kentucky Monday. He was sentenced to 35 years. The sentence prichard 's lawyer requested in exchange for a guilty plea.

"You're a coward to take somebody's life," Prichard didn't look...but he listened as the sisters of smalling spoke about the painful loss of their sister. "You J.C. you killed her execution style, you pressed the gun between her eyes as she pleaded for her life."

Smalling was was his live-in girlfriend, and the mother of his daughter.

Smalling's body was found by two kids on a gravel road near the couple's Silver Grove trailer home on April 27th 2002.

Smalling had a bullet wound in her head and another in her stomach. Police say Smalling and Prichard were together at a friends house the night before.

"I can't believe you actually killed my sister. You just took her, you took her away from us and it's not fair....." said one of Smalling's sisters in court Monday.

After the murder prichard went to his mother, told her what happened, and then disappeared. He drove north for about 600 miles. He got as far as Michigan when he decided to turn himself in.

Prichard will spend at least the next 20 years of his life behind bars.

"Your mother still gets to tell you she loves you....my mom and dad don't get to do that."

Is 20 years in jail "justice"?

http://www.nbc4columbus.com/news/2165364/detail.html

Confessed Ohio Killer Executed In Lucasville...

Ohio executed David Brewer Tuesday morning by for killing a 21-year-old woman in southwest Ohio...

Joe Byrne, the victim's husband, witnessed Brewer's execution. He said softly: "Where's your remorse? ...

Brewer, who lived in Centerville, near Dayton, and managed a rental appliance store, was a former fraternity brother of Byrne's husband, Joe Byrne. He later told police he was attracted to his friend's wife.

Brewer lured Sherry Byrne from her home to a suburban Cincinnati motel in 1985, on the pretense she would be meeting him and his wife.
Authorities said Brewer sexually assaulted and beat Byrne in a motel room before abducting her and driving around with her in the trunk of his car for several hours. Police said passing motorists at one point reported seeing a piece of paper with "help me please" written in lipstick shoved through the crack in the trunk of a car.

Brewer killed Byrne after she tried to escape in Beavercreek, a Dayton suburb. He later told police where to find her body. Police said she had been beaten, choked with a necktie and stabbed 15 times.

Both of these men confessed to their crimes. There is no doubt about their guilt.

Sherry Byrne. Raped, terrorized, murdered. She was a real person, completely innocent, who underwent a horrific experience through no fault of her own. She had a husband and a family, people who loved her. What about justice for her and her family?

In March 1985, Sherry and Joe Byrne were planning their future. Sherry, 21, and Joe, 25, had married a few months earlier. She was working as a part-time cosmetics saleswoman, and Joe had a job with a prominent financial company.

They bought a house in Springdale. They were trying to have a baby.

Then in a brutal and gruesome act, Joe's friend and fraternity brother, David Brewer, lured Sherry from her home on a ruse, then abducted, raped and killed her...

There's never been any question that Brewer killed Sherry on March 21, 1985. But his attorneys say death is not the right punishment for a 43-year-old man who led an upstanding life before and after the crime...

Sherry's family says death is exactly the right punishment.

David Brewer didn't just take Sherry's life when he strangled her with a necktie, stabbed her 15 times and slit her throat. He ruined the lives of everyone close to her.

Her mother, Myrtle Kaylor, had to be hospitalized. Grief overwhelming all other emotions, she and Sherry's stepfather, Lylburn Kaylor, soon divorced. Joe, too, said he was in and out of psychiatric care after his wife's death...

On the day he was sentenced for Sherry's murder, Greene County Prosecutor William Schenck told Sherry's family the appeals would take more than 15 years. Countless appeals in state and federal court have led to Tuesday.

Schenck has presided over four death penalty cases - Brewer would be the first defendant to die. Byrne asked him to witness the execution with him, and Schenck agreed.

He debunks the argument that Brewer should be spared because he is good person.

"Some crimes are so horrid nothing else matters," Schenck says. "What he did more than justifies the death penalty. He had more than a dozen opportunities to let her go and he chose the dark side."

A husband's grief

It's never been easy, but the first year was the hardest, Joe Byrne says. Twice that year he checked into the psychiatric unit of The Christ Hospital.

"I wanted to die," Byrne says.

He never went back to the home he shared with Sherry. Instead, he moved into his parents' Middletown home. He couldn't even go back to his job. When his boss pleaded with him to return, Byrne tried, but burst into tears on his way downtown. He turned around and went home...

Now the most difficult times are anniversary dates. The day Joe and Sherry got married, her birthday. The day she died.

In 1990 during a trip home to visit his parents, Byrne went to the deserted farm lane where his wife drew her last breath. "I just sat there are cried," he says.

Byrne has stayed close with the Kaylors over the years. That's helped, Myrtle Kaylor says.

"There's a void in my life as if it's never really complete," says Kaylor, who lives in Dayton...

Myrtle Kaylor displays family photos of her daughter Sherry, brutally murdered at age 21.

[malakhi]

Continued...

http://www.nbc4.tv/News/1572986/detail.html



Thousands of mourners packed the Crystal Cathedral on Wednesday to say goodbye to 5-year- old Samantha Runnion, a child many knew only through a photograph flashed during news reports of her abduction and murder...

"I can't even imagine losing a child in that way," she said, holding her 2-year-old daughter Bailey.

Orange County Sheriff Michael Carona drew a standing ovation when he moved to the podium to address the mourners. Holding back tears, Carona said Samantha was "America's little girl."

She said the message for her children was "stay close to us, tomorrow's never promised."

Even though she was too young for kindergarten, Samantha left her preschool playmates behind and sat with the kindergartners at her school, learning her numbers and her ABCs. She was supposed to start classes this fall at Lawrence Elementary School. Her favorite subject was reading, in which she excelled. She was proud that she had recently lost both bottom teeth and then an upper one, earning visits from the Tooth Fairy.

Samantha would have celebrated her sixth birthday this Friday. She was playing with a friend when a man who said he was looking for a puppy grabbed her. He put her in a car as she kicked and yelled to a playmate: "Help me." ...

Samantha's nude body was found a day later alongside a mountain highway between Orange County and Lake Elsinore. An autopsy showed she was asphyxiated and assaulted.

Alejandro Avila, 27, who has been charged with kidnap, murder and sexual assault, claimed he was at an Ontario shopping mall when Samantha was abducted while she played near her Stanton home on July 15. Credit card and cell phone records contradict his story, the Los Angeles Times reported Wednesday.

"Fortunately for us, if he hadn't used his cell phone or his credit cards," the trail would have been harder to follow, an unidentified source told the Times.

Two years ago, Avila was acquitted by a jury of molesting two girls in Riverside County. One of the girls, the 9-year-old daughter of an ex-girlfriend, lived in the same town house complex as the Runnion family. Avila often visited the area, said Lewis Davis, 39, the ex-girlfriend's foster brother. Samantha and friend Sarah Ahn, 5, were playing about 150 feet from Samantha's home last week when a man drove up in a two-door light green Honda or Acura after making a U-turn. The man got out and asked for help finding his puppy, then took off with the kicking and screaming girl.

Samantha's body was discovered the following day in neighboring Riverside County near Highway 74 on the edge of the Cleveland National Forest.

Explain why this man does not deserve the death penalty.

[SoothingDave]

Sorry in those scriptures I posted, the apostle Paul disagrees with you. If they're pokin' kids they should be gone right away. No more channeling.

You confuse being put out of the Church and being stripped of the authority to perform sacraments with the capacity to perform sacraments.

When angelo became a "born again" Jew, he did not cease to be a baptised person. He was baptised and that is irrevocable. Why? Cause God changed the person. He doesn't take back what He has given.

A priest is changed by God to be a channel for Christ in the sacraments. Nothing can change this "change." It is.

When someone ceases to be a Jew, his foreskin does not grow back. In the same way, when someone abuses his power as a priest, he may face sanction or dismissal from the Church, but he can not "unbecome" a priest any more than he can become "unbaptised"

Since he "understands" completely, please direct any further questions to in_principio_erat_Verbum. Thank you.

SD

[SoothingDave]

To what end? David repented and lived happily ever after. The end.

Sarah lets you get away with that? lol

Depends on how sleepy she is. LOL

We can get away with ad libing some of the longer books that she hasn't memorized.

SD

[SoothingDave]

Pedophile priests are victims of the devil

So let me make sure I get this. The Devil can cause motorcycle accidents, but he doesn't tempt men with deviant longings.

Strange cosmos y'all've got there.

SD

[malakhi]

Thank you all for your attention, and your understanding.

Sorry to hear about your accident. I will pray for your quick recuperation.

[RobbyS]

Of course it's judgment, but I don't expect you to admit it. You play fast and loose with words. A council serves more as a legislature than as a court, although it can sometimes name individuals as cupable. Hence the Council defines what is heresy. But judgement normally has to do with a particular case. A heretic's soul is in jeopardy but a person must first be convicted of the "crime." and must refuse the remedies provided by the Church. BTW, modern Protestants are technically not heretics.

[SoothingDave]

`Tis from ignorance of Scripture that all our evils arise; hence the plague of so many heresies, hence our careless lives, our fruitless labors… They err who look not to the bright rays of the divine Scriptures, because they walk in darkness.

To what aim do you post this? Do you think we disagree? Cause we don't. Do you think it proves "sola scriptura"? Cause it doesn't.

Are you puffed up?

SD

[malakhi]

We are taking the train this time. None of us have ever rode on one. We even reseved one of those little cabins.

Back in '94 I took Amtrak from Milwaukee to Seattle to visit a college friend of mine. Its a fun way to go! I liked to sit in the observation car and just watch the scenery go by. If your expectations aren't too high about the level of service (food in the dining car was good, but the service was slow and the staff was more like what you'd find at the motor vehicle office than in a service business), you'll have a good time.

[SoothingDave]

God is clear on the issue, that there is no communion between Light and darkness

Yep, and in_principio_erat_Verbum is the ultimate, infallible judge of who is and who is not a "reprobate" living in the "Darkness."

With powers like these it is no wonder so many people are rushing to become "Born again."

SD

[malakhi]

I missed it because I was watching "Rocky 5" and lost track of time. How pathetic is that??

Please tell me that you fell asleep, not that you got caught up in the drama. ;o)