The Neverending Story (The Christian Chronicles)

Associated Press ^ | 3/24/01

[malakhi]

The Neverending Story
An ongoing debate on Scripture, Tradition, History and Interpretation.

Statesmen may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is pure virtue. - John Adams

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[newgeezer]

mine

[newgeezer]

mine

[newgeezer]

mine

[newgeezer]

The whale
Put Jonah
Down the hatch
But coughed him up
Because he scratched
Burma-Shave

[ventana]

How come there's no other word for Thesaurus?

[RobbyS]

In Acts, sick people sought out Peter,because they thought he had the power to heal them. They were "praying" to him in the sense of entreating someone with power. We don't think that power went away when Peter died. He healed in the name of Jesus. We believe he still does.

[AlguyA]

Rhode Island is neither a road, nor an island.

Discuss.

[JesseShurun]

Yet, if you ask someone to pray for you, then you are using that person as a mediator between you and Jesus

I ask the church body to pray for me when I need it, and I have seen miracles happen from the praying. I don't ask just anybody to pray for me. Since the church body is the body of Christ, is in Christ, there is no mediator but Christ

[JesseShurun]

maybe he does but I see no scripture telling me to address my prayers to him, so I don't

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

SOME DAYS IT'S JUST NOT WORTH
GNAWING THROUGH THE STRAPS.

BigMack

[ventana]

Mary is also in the body of Christ, so what is the diff?

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

you all really need to get a life, this is pitiful.

BEcky

[ventana]

Good point. Could you post that again, about 10 times real fast. Just so it really sinks in?

[RobbyS]

Since the church body is the body of Christ, is in Christ, there is no mediator but Christ

You have just given the Catholic argument, except that you won't include Mary and the saints in heaven as part of the Church.

[newgeezer]

you all really need to get a life,

I'm making my living.

this is pitiful.

I forgive you. :-)

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

How come there's no other word for Thesaurus?

BigMack

[JesseShurun]

well scripture tells me to unite with other believers and meet together with them and pray. I haven't seen Mary there in attendance, nor does scripture say that she is. The Lord tho, says that He is

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

you all really need to get a life, this is pitiful.

BEcky

Up your nose!...wait...Becky...put that bat down!...Owwwwwwww BigMack

[AlguyA]

"Since the church body is the body of Christ, is in Christ, there is no mediator but Christ"

Um, a nice answer, but a bit disingenuous. Certainly, the Church is the Body of Christ. Yet I hardly believe when you ask the 'church body' to pray for you, every single member of the Body of Christ is praying specifically for you -unless yours is a somewhat exclusive definition of the Body of Christ limited to your immediate locale. Hence, you are asking certain 'parts' of the Body of Christ to pray for you. Following this logic, when Catholics ask Mary or the other saints to pray for us, we, too, are asking the Body of Christ to pray for us.

It would seem to me, then, this whole 'Catholics set up a mediator between themselves and Christ' business is bogus. The real issue is whether the saints in heaven can hear our prayers. In fact, the argument you give is something of a restatement of the theology of the communion of saints. The difference between us, then, is not some issue about mediation but, rather, what constitutes the communion of saints.

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

Your sister is the third generation
of women in your family to conceive
a baby as a result of an alien abduction.

BigMack