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Posted on 03/30/2002 7:53:37 PM PST by malakhi
The Neverending Story
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mine
49,801
posted on
04/29/2003 6:00:19 PM PDT
by
newgeezer
(fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible)
mine
49,802
posted on
04/29/2003 6:00:20 PM PDT
by
newgeezer
(fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible)
mine
49,803
posted on
04/29/2003 6:00:21 PM PDT
by
newgeezer
(fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible)
To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
The whale
Put Jonah
Down the hatch
But coughed him up
Because he scratched
Burma-Shave
49,804
posted on
04/29/2003 6:01:31 PM PDT
by
newgeezer
(fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible)
To: newgeezer
How come there's no other word for Thesaurus?
To: JesseShurun
In Acts, sick people sought out Peter,because they thought he had the power to heal them. They were "praying" to him in the sense of entreating someone with power. We don't think that power went away when Peter died. He healed in the name of Jesus. We believe he still does.
To: ventana
Rhode Island is neither a road, nor an island.
Discuss.
To: AlguyA
Yet, if you ask someone to pray for you, then you are using that person as a mediator between you and JesusI ask the church body to pray for me when I need it, and I have seen miracles happen from the praying. I don't ask just anybody to pray for me. Since the church body is the body of Christ, is in Christ, there is no mediator but Christ
To: RobbyS
maybe he does but I see no scripture telling me to address my prayers to him, so I don't
To: newgeezer
SOME DAYS IT'S JUST NOT WORTH
GNAWING THROUGH THE STRAPS.
BigMack
To: JesseShurun
Mary is also in the body of Christ, so what is the diff?
you all really need to get a life, this is pitiful.
BEcky
To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Good point. Could you post that again, about 10 times real fast. Just so it really sinks in?
To: JesseShurun
Since the church body is the body of Christ, is in Christ, there is no mediator but Christ You have just given the Catholic argument, except that you won't include Mary and the saints in heaven as part of the Church.
To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
you all really need to get a life,I'm making my living.
this is pitiful.
I forgive you. :-)
49,815
posted on
04/29/2003 6:08:04 PM PDT
by
newgeezer
(fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible)
To: ventana
How come there's no other word for Thesaurus? BigMack
To: ventana
well scripture tells me to unite with other believers and meet together with them and pray. I haven't seen Mary there in attendance, nor does scripture say that she is. The Lord tho, says that He is
To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
you all really need to get a life, this is pitiful. BEcky
Up your nose!...wait...Becky...put that bat down!...Owwwwwwww BigMack
To: JesseShurun
"Since the church body is the body of Christ, is in Christ, there is no mediator but Christ" Um, a nice answer, but a bit disingenuous. Certainly, the Church is the Body of Christ. Yet I hardly believe when you ask the 'church body' to pray for you, every single member of the Body of Christ is praying specifically for you -unless yours is a somewhat exclusive definition of the Body of Christ limited to your immediate locale. Hence, you are asking certain 'parts' of the Body of Christ to pray for you. Following this logic, when Catholics ask Mary or the other saints to pray for us, we, too, are asking the Body of Christ to pray for us.
It would seem to me, then, this whole 'Catholics set up a mediator between themselves and Christ' business is bogus. The real issue is whether the saints in heaven can hear our prayers. In fact, the argument you give is something of a restatement of the theology of the communion of saints. The difference between us, then, is not some issue about mediation but, rather, what constitutes the communion of saints.
To: newgeezer
Your sister is the third generation
of women in your family to conceive
a baby as a result of an alien abduction.
BigMack
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