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The Neverending Story (The Christian Chronicles)
Associated Press ^ | 3/24/01

Posted on 03/30/2002 7:53:37 PM PST by malakhi

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To: RobbyS
Thank you for the compliment.

You're welcome.

JH

48,201 posted on 04/22/2003 4:25:53 PM PDT by JHavard (You don't know what you don't know)
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To: Havoc
Then again, it isn't scripture says you. Other people say otherwise. Who is to decide who is right and who wrong?
48,202 posted on 04/22/2003 4:27:17 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: JHavard
Hey,well I have standards. I try to wait until 90. I tried to play fair last night but yall let me walk off with it. :'). Actually, as far as reading music, shh, but sometimes I don't play what I am supposed to be practicing and skip around to the parts I like. Some of that elavator music is so boring that I'm doing good to play half of it. I play Jesus loves me and I'm proud to be an American really good though.
48,203 posted on 04/22/2003 4:30:51 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Havoc
Wisdom of Solomon 13:1  "For all men who were ignorant of God were foolish by nature; and they were unable from the good things that are seen to know him who exists, nor did they recognize the craftsman while paying heed to his works..."
48,204 posted on 04/22/2003 4:34:49 PM PDT by tHe AnTiLiB (Pray in reparation for the sins of the world, like Jesus did.)
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To: tHe AnTiLiB
Wisdom of Solomon 13:1 "For all men who were ignorant of God were foolish by nature; and they were unable from the good things that are seen to know him who exists, nor did they recognize the craftsman while paying heed to his works..."

So you've bought an Old Testament? Oh, that's the first scripture you've quoted so far, now it didn't hurt a bit did it?

I'm still good for a New Testament, or one with both if you want.

Let me know.

JH

48,205 posted on 04/22/2003 4:43:25 PM PDT by JHavard (You don't know what you don't know)
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To: malakhi
XS>Just as those who lived before Jesus (salvation ) looked to YHWH for the messiah and salvation(Y'shua), not knowing it was Jesus(salvation ) they were hoping for.

m>Do you think that this cannot happen after Jesus?


48,135 posted on 04/22/2003 1:10 PM MDT by malakhi (fundamentalist unitarian)

Y'shua has always been the Mashiach; G-d is outside of Time and Space.

Tehillim (Psalm) 89:26 He will call out to me, `You are my Father, my God, the Rock my Saviour.'

chuck <truth@YeshuaHaMashiach>

48,206 posted on 04/22/2003 4:46:19 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Wonder if He's happy with all those pediphile priests?

I don't think he really minds priests who "love or have a strong affinity for"...um... feet?

Is there a foot fetish problem going around the priesthood?

48,207 posted on 04/22/2003 4:47:13 PM PDT by IMRight (:-))
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To: IMRight
Is there a foot fetish problem going around the priesthood?

Oh No! When did this start? I thought the worst was behind in the past, sorry, now there's pediphiles?

What won't they do next? tish, tish, tish.

JH :-)

48,208 posted on 04/22/2003 4:56:56 PM PDT by JHavard (Buy a Bible,.... you don't know what you might be missing.)
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To: JHavard
I suspect I have enough Bibles.

Now my problem is remembering which one I wrote a particular note in.

Often I have a KJV with me so that I'm reading the same version as the pastor, but I often like to bring a NAB to point out translational errors "inconsistencies" to Jen. Sometimes it's whatever translation is in the car or handy when we walk out the door.

48,209 posted on 04/22/2003 5:03:14 PM PDT by IMRight
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To: tHe AnTiLiB
I can name quite a few Bible passages that fundamentalists take literally that are "cute."

Okay, I'm curious. Could you start with two, please?

48,210 posted on 04/22/2003 5:33:31 PM PDT by newgeezer (fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible)
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To: JHavard
So you've bought an Old Testament?

Not quite. "Wisdom of Solomon" is one of those Apocryphal books (which means, from what I can recall, it contains something clearly in error when compared to the rest of the canon).

48,211 posted on 04/22/2003 5:43:31 PM PDT by newgeezer (fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible)
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To: All
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48,212 posted on 04/22/2003 5:58:11 PM PDT by newgeezer (fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible)
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To: newgeezer; JHavard
Not quite. "Wisdom of Solomon" is one of those Apocryphal books (which means, from what I can recall, it contains something clearly in error when compared to the rest of the canon).

Cut him some slack. He saw "Solomon" and thought "I know that name!" Can a guy be expected to memorize the name of every book NOT in his Bible? :-)

48,213 posted on 04/22/2003 5:59:08 PM PDT by IMRight (Want a KJV with those books in it Jim? I've got one.... they're in the original.)
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To: IMRight
Cut him some slack.

Hey, I thought I did.

;-D

48,214 posted on 04/22/2003 6:18:53 PM PDT by newgeezer (fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible)
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To: tHe AnTiLiB
The successes the Catholic Church has achieved is unmatchable with any other religion.

Not quite true. But, I'm sure nothing I'm going to say will assuage your adulations. I would note that the propaganda is always better than the facts. And I wasn't picking at you, I was picking at the verse you chose or do you not see the difference.

As far as what fundamentalism has done, Fundamentalist Christians spend huge budgets on feeding the poor, building homes, infrastructure and churches in poor countries and providing schools and supplies for them - even teachers. They feed bodies and souls alike. Where have you been all your life. Or are you yet another who reads only the authorized church propaganda?

I'm glad you can name Bible passages. I just wonder why you choose to accept for authority things which are not scripture and which are at odds with scripture? You certainly quote from them. Wait, I keep forgetting I'm Christian and you're Catholic. If we were of the same religion perhaps I should expect you to know better. Carry on.

48,215 posted on 04/22/2003 6:42:39 PM PDT by Havoc (If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
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To: JHavard
Here's some New Testament dismissing the impossibilty of Mary being assumed into heaven under the power of God.

Matthew 27:52-53  "...the tombs also were opened, and many bodies of the SAINTS who had fallen asleep were raised, and coming out of the tombs after His resurrection they went into the holy city and appeared to many."

48,216 posted on 04/22/2003 6:44:51 PM PDT by tHe AnTiLiB (Pray in reparation for the sins of the world, like Jesus did.)
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To: CindyDawg
Is that the island that the Beach Boys sing about?

Nah, I wish sometimes LOL. I'm in Kokomo, Indiana - the town appropriately dubbed both "city of firsts" and "little detroit". The World Headquarters for Delco division of Delphi is housed here along with multiple Delphi and Chrysler facilities (including Benze). We are due to get a steel works before too long and possibly a Ford plant; but, that one I think is still in the rumor stage - has been for several years.

As far as your eldest is concerned, I'm just the opposite. I have a tag on my back and on my forhead that says either "abuse me" or "dancers, this way". Seems everytime I meet someone I think is nice in public; before major conversation can start, I find out she's a dancer. Ok, maybe 20% of the time. LOL. It gets old. And I have no use for that. I'm beginning to wonder if women come in emotionally stable, low baggage, undivorced with no kids brand anymore. Near as I can tell the most important thing to young women is to run off into what they think is fun at the earliest possible moment, destroy their lives then spend the rest of their days baiting the best sucker they can find to come and pay for their mistakes. I'm a little cynical in that court if you can imagine it LOL.

48,217 posted on 04/22/2003 6:51:36 PM PDT by Havoc (If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
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To: tHe AnTiLiB
Ah, yes, Protestants pick and chose which books to listen to and which to not. Like Maccabees, Sirach. Yes, the father of Protestantism, Luther, refused to accept Maccabees because it proved the worth of praying to the dead, those who have risen. Read 2Maccabees.

Actually, The Jews had domain over the oracles of God. So you might try playing that spiel elsewhere. The additions to the OT cannon happened after Christ. This is like putting a stripe job on a car after it's been sent to the car crusher. Never mind who did it (no authority). Then there is the track record of the people involved. So, yes, we do pick and choose what books to listen to because we have brains enough to be responsible and not be sold a bill of goods.. and enough to follow what the Apostles taught us in that regard. That should not be surprising to see but rather welcome. I guess it has something to do with the fact that by and large, Christians are much more aware of what's in their Bibles than Catholics are because Christians read them. I've read 2Macabees. It is of no use. I prefer scripture to fiction. And the worth of praying to the dead is dealt with in the Jewish Cannon long before Macabees came along. The odd thing is that the jews know this and Catholics are rather clueless about it. Could it be because the catholics didn't bother reading the OT before trying to ammend it though they had no authority to so do? That would be my guess. Ecclesiastes 9 says all that needs to be said; but, the entire ot is filled with bans on communication with the dead in all it's forms from spiritism to necromancy. Would kinda help to know these things before deciding to do something that runs both against scripture and God - wouldn't it. That is if you are truly intending to follow Christ instead of just be a member of a big club and play at religion. You might consider these things.

48,218 posted on 04/22/2003 7:06:55 PM PDT by Havoc (If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
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To: RobbyS
Yeah, it was rather disarming wasn't it. Don't have anything else to say? Did it at least make you think? cause it's clear, concise and 100% true. You know it
and I know it and everyone else that's been here for eons
knows it. The question is what will you do about it.
48,219 posted on 04/22/2003 7:13:29 PM PDT by Havoc (If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
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To: tHe AnTiLiB
Here's [a verse] dismissing the impossibilty of Mary being assumed into heaven under the power of God.

Did someone say God was powerless to do it? Or, is the contention that there is no Scripture to support any belief that He did it?

48,220 posted on 04/22/2003 7:13:42 PM PDT by newgeezer (fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible)
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