To: Gargantua
The shoe is on the wrong foot, here. The Faithless have an impertinent habit of standing Truth on its head in their attempts to prove the impossible.
Oh dear, a shifting of burden of proof.
We have historical text records of all Creation, given to Man by God, which explain the origin of everything including the spiritual rebelliousness exhibited by those who have no Faith.
You'll need to demonstrate that those text records are accurate. Why should I simply accept that they are true because you say so?
Now, the Faithless are demanding proof of God's existence, or merely stating (as if they somehow knew) that there is no God. Hogwash. It is entirely the responsibility of those puporting a new, improved explanation to prove their position, not the other way 'round.
Except that the "Faithless" aren't making a proposition (well, except those who assert that a God does not exist). The proposition is that there exists a God. The burnen of proof is on the claimant to demonstrate that the proposition is valid. It's no better than me demanding that you prove that you do not owe me a large sum of money (otherwise, you'd better pay up).
Let scientists prove that God did not create the universe, and does not exist. Good luck.
Exactly how would they go about proving such? What evidence would prove that God did not create the universe and that God does not exist?
Science works with what has been observed. It can only prove that a proposition is false if that proposition makes claims that can be tested and observed (the proposition is falsified when the tests fail to produce the predicted observations). If God can't be observed then science cannot start with the assumption that God is there (if God can be observed, then state how such an observation can be made, tested and repeated reliably).
Also note that no scientific theory asserts that there are no gods; in fact scientific theories are explanations of phenomena and not assertions against phenomena.
To: Dimensio
"What evidence would prove that God did not create the universe and that God does not exist?" Exactly! You're learning.
The newcoming challengers (Evolutionary scientists) bear the responsibility for proving their novel sputum. It isn't as though the evolutionary scientists were here first, and then these religious interlopers came along trying to inject their radical ideas about Creation into the world. Creation happened before there were any people at all, and thousands of texts from Antiquity state this quite clearly.
And as to the fact of the existence of these ancient documents, your phony assertion that it is somehow my reference to them upon which their existence (or accuracy) relies is as absurd and pointless as are the rest of your gainsaying arguments... indeed, as pointless as is man's insistence upon believing in his own artificial and temporal "intelligence." It does not exist.
In the end, you are only fighting against yourself, and the well-being of your own eternal soul. If you are certain that that is a fight worth fighting, I cannot stop you.
But I do mourn your unwise choice, and pray for God's wisdom in your heart.
To: Dimensio
"You'll need to demonstrate that those text records are accurate." Says who? You? Get a life... and I do mean literally.
God says they're accurate... you say they aren't... hmmmmm.... who to believe, right?
WRONG.
To: Dimensio
Those same text records (which you so callously dispute) predicted the "...scattering to the four corners of the Earth" the entire nation of Israel. Hundreds of years later, it was scattered just as predicted by God's prophets in the Bible.
Those records predicted that the Nation of Israel would be again gathered together into the land God had given them, that they would be surrounded by their enemies, and that this new Israel would be "...a burdensome stone around the neck of all mankind."
Hundreds of years later, every single one of those prophesied predictions came true... to a tee.
Those same text records predicted that within a generation (40-60 years in the Bible) of the re-established Nation of Israel, there would be a re-unification of the Roman Empire.
The EU has now proven that prediction also to have been true.
This historical text upon which you spit has made thousands of predictions through the prophecy of God's elect, of which a handful remain to be fulfilled, and you say that I have to prove it's accuracy?
I do pray for your immortal soul. Try reading the ones that have yet to come true... it's a real eye-opener.
Or not.
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