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To: Heartlander
This is not the place for a discussion of elementary probability theory. You should take a good college course in introductory probability theory. There are also sites on the Web that have good explanations.

Short explanation: odds for are the ratio of "favorable" cases to "unfavorable" caes (odds against is the reciprocal). Probability is the ration of "favorable" cases to total cases. For example in flipping a fair coin, the probability of getting heads is 1/2 but the odds of getting heads is 1/1. On an ordinary die, the probability of throwing an ace is 1/6 but the odds against are 5/1.

1,114 posted on 03/21/2002 10:01:51 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic
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To: Doctor Stochastic;Lev
Gentlemen,

Empirical data is used in genetics to compute probabilities all the time. It is interesting that you sight gambling to dispute the probabilities posed above. Evolution is just a big gamble after all and it continues to try it’s luck on different machines all the time – but the house wins.

The article that these posts are supposed to be based upon even site a probabilities link. It doesn’t work though – what are the chances?…

1,118 posted on 03/21/2002 10:17:51 AM PST by Heartlander
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To: Doctor Stochastic
It is pretty obvious that mutation and selection are not purely random events. Miller proved the dice are loaded towards chemical evolution when an energy gradient exists.

The clearest analogy to how variation and selection can lead to "progress" is quantum tunneling. There are everyday events in the subatomic world which cannot take place in classical physics -- particles having insufficient energy suddenly leaping from one state to another, apparently overcoming an insurmountable obstacle.

When an event has demonstrably happened, you cannot use probability theory to prove it could not have happened.

1,123 posted on 03/21/2002 10:40:07 AM PST by js1138
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