So what you are saying here is I have to accept your unverifiable evidence and become a Christian just like you. SHEESH!
You experience is invalid for me. It is unacceptable as evidence for me. I cannot reproduce it or falsify it, that's the standard for scientific evidence and what I require.
You establish a standard of proof that has never been acceptable for living things, then demand I meet that standard.
The standard is the scientific method. I can accept nothing less.
Unfortunately, when dealing with living things, you can't use the repeatable and verifiable experiment model. You have to use the statistical model because living things have will and so are subject to factors beyond simple physical laws. Large samples are required to prove anything about living things.
What you are saying here is Biology is invalid. I don't accept that. The scientific method of verification is all I will accept, nothing less.
I am sorry that you are limiting yourself so completely. I did not say that biology is invalid. I said that it had to recognize that beings are not subject solely to physical laws.
G-d is not a repeatable experiment. But then, how many times do you have to destroy the first-born of Egypt for people to get the message?
I will pray for you, but I believe you and I have danced all of the dance and gotten nowhere. But if you think otherwise, post away.
Shalom.
To: ArGeeI disagree. Everytime you tell me my experience is invalid you put me down.
So what you are saying here is I have to accept your unverifiable evidence and become a Christian just like you. SHEESH!
You experience is invalid for me. It is unacceptable as evidence for me. I cannot reproduce it or falsify it, that's the standard for scientific evidence and what I require.
You establish a standard of proof that has never been acceptable for living things, then demand I meet that standard.
The standard is the scientific method. I can accept nothing less.
Unfortunately, when dealing with living things, you can't use the repeatable and verifiable experiment model. You have to use the statistical model because living things have will and so are subject to factors beyond simple physical laws. Large samples are required to prove anything about living things.
What you are saying here is Biology is invalid. I don't accept that. The scientific method of verification is all I will accept, nothing less.
942 posted on 1/5/02 2:33 PM Pacific by LuvItOrLeaveIt
All throughout this thread, you have been repeating the above. It is obvious that we (the Believers) cannot (or haven't yet) been able to convince you of how we got to where we are, or of the things that have convinced us to get to this place.
You have NOT, however, tried to get any of US to change sides by painting a fictional word picture of how YOU got to where you are. I can appreciate that. You didn't start a thread asking for input.
I guess my question is: CAN you do that? Do you have any evidence, that passes YOUR standard, to show us? Can you tell us of your experience?