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To: ArGee
You are an intelligent person, but you often post as someone who would rather not have knowledge.

On the contrary.

It is knowledge that I seek.

Not speculation, not faith, not testimony, not evidence of things hoped for..... but knowledge.

Faith and knowledge are by definition mutually exclusive.

If a premise is to be held on faith, it must be held in the absence of knowledge.

When knowledge is acquired to substantiate the premise, it ceases to be held on faith.

641 posted on 01/04/2002 10:10:36 AM PST by OWK
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To: OWK
It is knowledge that I seek.

And the other half seeks miracles!



 
 
1 Corinthians 1
 22.  Jews demand miraculous signs and Greeks look for wisdom,
 23.  but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles,
 24.  but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.
 
Hebrews 11:6
 And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him

651 posted on 01/04/2002 10:23:48 AM PST by Elsie
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To: OWK
Faith and knowledge are by definition mutually exclusive. If a premise is to be held on faith, it must be held in the absence of knowledge. When knowledge is acquired to substantiate the premise, it ceases to be held on faith.

I think your porblem is epistemology, i.e. how do you "know." In fact, those who attempt to draw the 'distinction' you do, place way, way too much faith in how they 'know'.

In short, your 'knowledge' is based entirely on your (unsubstantiated) faith in the exclusivity of your preferred methods of acquiring 'knowledge.'

Nice little circle you've drawn there, son.

658 posted on 01/04/2002 10:35:48 AM PST by winstonchurchill
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To: OWK
It is knowledge that I seek.

If that were true, it would be G-d that you seek. I sense that it is your self that you seek, and to make your own knowledge the master of all. Mind, I'm not suggesting that you not try to learn everything that you can. I'm just suggesting that you recognize that you don't know everything. Just out of curiosity - out of everything there is possible to be known in the universe, what percentage would you say you know?

Faith and knowledge are by definition mutually exclusive.

With a statement like that I'm going to assume you're rather young. If not, you're at least rather naive. Faith is the ultimate knowledge. Whether you know it or not, and you seem philosophically opposed to admit the axioms that are the foundation of your worldview, you have great faith that the universe operates according to fixed laws. Do you know where that idea originated?

Shalom.

844 posted on 01/05/2002 5:22:50 AM PST by ArGee
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