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Posted on 06/09/2026 6:32:15 PM PDT by ebb tide
Bishop Athanasius Schneider of Astana, Kazakhstan, said that a “remarkable number of high-ranking clergy” have “lost the Catholic faith.”
“They want another Church: half-Protestant Church, half worldly, adapted to the impression of the world,” Schneider told Catholic writer and podcaster Matt Gaspers during a larger discussion about the Second Vatican Council and the Society of St. Pius X.
“There are a remarkable number of them over the past 60 years. They have influence in the Church … They’ve promoted (t)his with interior conviction, a desire to really change the Catholic faith, to adapt it completely to the world, and to have a new religion which is relativistic, a kind of syncretism,” the bishop said.
The time frame he specified points to the conclusion of the Second Vatican Council in 1965 as a turning point for the apparent orthodoxy of Catholic leaders. Indeed, Schneider has openly criticized Vatican II and the loss of clear, traditional teaching – and faith – in its wake.
Schneider said that it is “difficult” to ascertain which clergy members have the attitude to “change the Catholic faith,” but that we can declare the result the “fruits”: “A tremendous general confusion, obfuscation, darkness regarding doctrine, morals, and liturgy.”
During the interview, Gaspers and Schneider agreed that Vatican II itself was problematic due to its ambiguous statements that may be interpreted in a heretical manner.
Gaspers asked Schneider why the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) is being asked by Cardinal Víctor Manuel Fernández, the prefect of the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith (DDF), to unconditionally accept Vatican II as a condition for being deemed “Catholic.”
The bishop pointed out that past popes demanded the same thing from SSPX founder Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre. Even to ask one to say Vatican II is consistent with tradition is to ask for “violence to your reason” or an “exercise of mental acrobatics,” Schneider said.
In fact, Pope Francis, like Pope Leo, has presented his doctrinally “questionable” innovations as a “development of the teachings of Vatican II,” the bishop pointed out.
“But we see it is a disaster. If the fruit are only confusion, ambiguity — how can ambiguity (be) the voice of the Holy Spirit?” Schneider said.
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A remarkable number of Church leaders have lost their way.
Sad but true.
A remarkable number of Church leaders have lost their way.
That’s what sin can do to “church leaders” IMHO.
Did they have “faith” to begin with?
I needed some sort of meaningful change inside me to ‘get the faith’ to begin with.
Abandoned it is more likely, which is the case for anyone turning their back on something.
What a novel concept...
RCINC is the oldest most profitable multi national corporation on the planet. Notice how RCINC cries poverty, but is able to hire $600 per hour defense attorneys to smear the victims of their employees sexual abuse, (aka priests)
Episcopalians are just down the street.
Many have started doing their own research instead of blindly believing Church canons and other trash by their “leaders’ who have lost their way.
No shock at all!
In the New Testament, “the falling away” (or apostasia) refers to a prophesied, massive abandonment of the Christian faith before the return of Jesus. While the Apostle Paul is credited with the term, Jesus Himself warned the disciples about this exact crisis.
Jesus’ Direct Warnings
Jesus foretold a time of intense deception and spiritual cooling. In the Olivet Discourse (found in the Gospel of Matthew), He clearly described the falling away of the church:The Rise of False Prophets: Jesus warned that many will come in His name claiming to be the Messiah and that false prophets will lead many astray.Betrayal and Loss of Love: He stated that, due to the increase of wickedness, the love of many will grow cold and people will turn away from the faith, betraying and hating one another.The Danger of Deception: Jesus repeatedly cautioned, “See that no one leads you astray,” indicating that this falling away will be rooted in deception.The Role of the Apostle PaulThe Apostle Paul elaborated heavily on this prophecy to warn early believers not to be deceived into thinking the return of Christ was immediately at hand.In 2 Thessalonians 2, Paul states clearly that the “Day of the Lord” will not come unless the “falling away” comes first, followed by the revelation of the “man of sin” (the Antichrist).In 1 Timothy 4, Paul mentions that in the latter times, some will depart from the faith by paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of falsehood.Meaning of “The Falling Away”In the original Greek text, the word used is apostasia, which literally means “to stand apart” or “a defection/rebellion”. Theologians generally interpret this as a visible, global crisis where many individuals who claimed to follow Jesus will actively abandon biblical truth.
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