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Sura An-Nisa 4:157 {funny readings from the holey Quran}
quran.com ^ | 750 AD | Caliph Uthman

Posted on 05/29/2026 7:22:08 AM PDT by Cronos

˹They were condemned˺ for breaking their covenant, rejecting Allah’s signs, killing the prophets unjustly, and for saying, “Our hearts are unreceptive!”1—it is Allah Who has sealed their hearts for their disbelief, so they do not believe except for a few

and for boasting, “We killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of Allah.” But they neither killed nor crucified him—it was only made to appear so.1 Even those who argue for this ˹crucifixion˺ are in doubt. They have no knowledge whatsoever—only making assumptions. They certainly did not kill him.


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Islam; Theology
KEYWORDS: alicelamb; alislam; holesinthenarrative; koranimals

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This is KEY for any Christian talking to a Mohammedan - especially when they say 1. "we respect Jesus more than Christians" 2. "we have Jesus as a prophet"

etc.

in short -- their "Jesus" is Isa and has little to nothing in common with the Jesus of the Bible

Surah 4:157 of the Quran (Surah An-Nisa) emphasizes that Jesus was neither killed nor crucified. It states that the claim made by those who boasted about killing Jesus, the son of Mary, was false, and that the event was made to appear so to them.

The text explicitly rejects the narrative that Jesus died on the cross. It suggests that another person was made to look like Jesus, causing confusion among those witnessing the event.

This ties to a Hadith (supposed sayings of mo, but collected 200+ years after his alleged lifetime) where they say that Simeon of Cyrene was "substituted" on the cross while Isa 'laughed'

another hadith says Ibn Abbas narrated that Isa was in a house with twelve of his disciples. Knowing the house was surrounded, Isa asked, "Who among you will have my likeness cast upon him, be killed in my place, and be my companion in paradise?" The youngest volunteering man accepted the task, his appearance was changed to look exactly like Isa, and he was arrested and crucified. Meanwhile, Jesus ascended to heaven through an opening in the roof

note that the Q always calls mary as Maryam, "Mother of Jesus" and refuses to call her mother of God

1 posted on 05/29/2026 7:22:08 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

“This is KEY for any Christian talking to a Mohammedan...”

I prefer heavy munitions and pig blood.


2 posted on 05/29/2026 7:31:00 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Cronos

Note it said: we killed the Messiah. Jesus born of Mary the
MESSIAH.


3 posted on 05/29/2026 8:26:46 AM PDT by BarbM (Men who look at porn are impotent for God.)
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To: Cronos

Delusion on display, worldwide.


4 posted on 05/29/2026 8:47:44 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: BarbM; Cronos

“Who do You say that I Am Simon/Peter?”
Jesus said this and seems to point out two things.
That it’s each one of Us individually must develop the True Identity and Purpose of Jesus Christs’ Incarnation.
Striving to understand Who We are in this world in relationship to A Holy God and our Fellow Pilgrims.
IMHO


5 posted on 05/29/2026 8:51:49 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (Good SCIENCE is Not Faith BUT Curiosity. )
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Why would any Jew boast of killing the Messiah? That would make no sense, believing He was the promised Messiah and then actively endeavoring to cause His death.


6 posted on 05/29/2026 11:20:49 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

Islam makes no sense. One more statement makes no difference. It’s ALL nonsensical.


7 posted on 05/29/2026 11:23:29 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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