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The Most Pressing Need in the World Today: Restoring the Belief in Immutable Catholic Truth
The Remnant Newspaper ^ | August 11, 2024 | Robert Morrison

Posted on 08/11/2024 4:03:46 PM PDT by ebb tide

The Most Pressing Need in the World Today: Restoring the Belief in Immutable Catholic Truth

“Then Jesus said to those Jews, who believed Him: If you continue in My word, you shall be My disciples indeed. And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” (John 8:31-32)

Commenting on this passage from the Gospel of St. John, St Augustine emphasized the unchanging, or immutable, nature of truth:

“The truth is unchangeable; it is the bread of the soul, refreshing others, without diminution to itself; changing him who eats into itself, itself not changed. This truth is the Word of God, which put on flesh for our sakes, and lay hid; not meaning to bury itself, but only to defer its manifestation, till its suffering in the body, for the ransoming of the body of sin, had taken place.” (from St. Thomas Aquinas, Catena Aurea)

Actual truth cannot change because the Word of God cannot change. St. Paul expressed the same reality in his letter to the Hebrews:

“Jesus Christ, yesterday, and today; and the same for ever. Be not led away with various and strange doctrines.” (Hebrews 13:8-9)

St. Paul warned us against being “led away with various and strange doctrines” because he recognized that this was a genuine threat to our Faith: there are those who will try to lead us away from God’s immutable truth. St. Paul went so far as to insist that one must cling to immutable truth even if it appears that reliable authority figures tell us that the truth must change:

“I wonder that you are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ, unto another gospel. Which is not another, only there are some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema. As we said before, so now I say again: If any one preach to you a gospel, besides that which you have received, let him be anathema.” (Galatians 1:6-9)

This is such a vital concept that St. Paul repeated it so as to avoid any misunderstanding. Nobody, not even St. Paul himself or an angel from heaven, can change the truth that the Apostles taught.

The error of historicism posits that truths of the Faith can evolve over time depending upon historical circumstances, such that what St. Paul considered to be immutable during his time may be different now because our world has changed. It should be clear that St. Paul would have found such an assertion to be preposterous, dangerous, and obviously contradicted by the plain terms of his warning.

Of course it is the case that expressions of the Catholic Faith have developed in the centuries since St. Paul warned us against accepting changes to the Faith. As we know, the Church has been guided by the Holy Ghost to perfect the expressions of certain truths, often to clarify and expand upon the truths that Our Lord entrusted to His disciples for the sake of combatting heresies. In each instance, though, St. Paul and everyone else who understood Catholic truth would recognize that the legitimate development of particular expressions of the Faith always elaborate upon and clarify, rather than contradict, the truths they had taught.

Pope Pius XII was the last pope to firmly warn against the errors that threatened to lead Catholics to believe that the Faith could change to become something that contradicted what it had always been. His 1950 encyclical “Concerning Some False Opinions Threatening to Undermine the Foundations of Catholic Doctrine,” Humani Generis, he denounced the errors that had already started to find their way into Catholic books and seminaries:

“Such fictitious tenets of evolution which repudiate all that is absolute, firm and immutable, have paved the way for the new erroneous philosophy which, rivaling idealism, immanentism and pragmatism, has assumed the name of existentialism, since it concerns itself only with existence of individual things and neglects all consideration of their immutable essences. There is also a certain historicism, which attributing value only to the events of man's life, overthrows the foundation of all truth and absolute law, both on the level of philosophical speculations and especially to Christian dogmas.”

This last error — historicism — posits that truths of the Faith can evolve over time depending upon historical circumstances, such that what St. Paul considered to be immutable during his time may be different now because our world has changed. It should be clear that St. Paul would have found such an assertion to be preposterous, dangerous, and obviously contradicted by the plain terms of his warning.

Before considering two post-Vatican II manifestations of historicism below, it is worthwhile to see the way in which the error spread prior to the Council despite Pius XII’s warning in Humani Generis that historicism “overthrows the foundation of all truth and absolute law.” The following excerpt from the August 1993 SiSiNoNo explains so much about the crisis in the Catholic Church:

“Confirmation of this treachery comes to us today, from the very lips of those representing this New Theology. A mouthpiece of theirs is the journal Communio and in an article of November-December, 1990, the Jesuit Fr. Peter Henrici (born 1928) tells us that: . . . Behind that facade of official studies, modernist texts and tracts were secretly circulated to the most brilliant and promising seminarians. Those same modernist concepts, secretly passed around, would later reappear as the New Theology. Those who showed interest and promise in theology, would be given the modernist Fr. Henri de Lubac's book: The Supernatural - the most forbidden of forbidden books! Then they would receive another of his books, Corpus Mysticum. This was done to inculcate them with the principle that identical theological terms could have different meanings with the passage of time or when looked at in another context. Thus we say goodbye to unchanging divine and apostolic Tradition! Goodbye to the homogenous development of dogma! Goodbye to unchangeable truths!”

Yes, thanks to the insidious work of those who sought to spread what Pius XII had forbidden, the future priests were poisoned with the belief that “identical theological terms could have different meanings with the passage of time or when looked at in another context.” Although such a pernicious error can only have been devised by the father of lies, many well-meaning clerics allowed the foundations of their Faith to be overthrown by historicism. Two examples (chosen from among many) should suffice to demonstrate the extent of damage that has resulted from this catastrophe:

Cardinal Ratzinger (the future Benedict XVI) likened Dignitatis Humanae and other Council documents to a “countersyllabus,” meaning that the Council’s key documents essentially promoted the errors that Pope Pius IX had condemned in his Syllabus of Errors, which accompanied the pope’s 1864 encyclical, Quanta Cura.

Vatican II and Religious Liberty. It is beyond serious dispute that Vatican II’s Dignitatis Humanae said something fundamentally different from what the pre-Vatican II popes taught. As discussed in a previous article, Cardinal Ratzinger (the future Benedict XVI) likened Dignitatis Humanae and other Council documents to a “countersyllabus,” meaning that the Council’s key documents essentially promoted the errors that Pope Pius IX had condemned in his Syllabus of Errors, which accompanied the pope’s 1864 encyclical, Quanta Cura. In his They Have Uncrowned Him, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre quoted Fr. Yves Congar’s explanation for how the architects of the Council’s documents justified their deviation from pre-Conciliar teaching by suggesting that the historical circumstances had evolved:

“Father John Courtney Murray, who belonged to the intellectual and religious elite, has shown that, materially saying quite the opposite from the Syllabusthis latter is from 1864 and it is, as Roger Aubert has proven, conditioned by precise historical circumstances — the Declaration [Dignitatis Humanae] was the consequence of the battle by which, in the face of Jacobism and the totalitarianisms, the Popes more and more strongly led the fight for the dignity of the liberty of the human person made to the image of God.” (p. 185)

So, Congar and Murray would argue, it might have been true for the popes to condemn religious liberty in their time, but times have changed. Archbishop Lefebvre rejected this historicist attempt to justify the rejection of what the Church had previously taught:

“On the contrary, we have seen that Roger Aubert and John Courtney Murray are themselves prisoners of the historicist prejudice which makes them erroneously relativize the doctrine of the Popes of the nineteenth century! In reality, the Popes have condemned religious liberty in itself, as a freedom that is absurd, ungodly, and leading the peoples to religious indifference. This condemnation remains, and, with the authority of the constant ordinary magisterium of the Church (if not of the extraordinary magisterium, with Quanta Cura), it weighs on the conciliar declaration.” (pp. 185-196)

Today we see the absolute absurdity of believing that the pre-Vatican II popes were speaking only for unique historical situations. Vatican II’s purported embrace of the freedom to openly practice all religions may not have had a direct practical effect in non-Catholic nations, but it erroneously signaled two things to the world. It falsely indicated that the Church no longer condemned the proposition that “liberty of conscience and worship is each man’s personal right,” which Quanta Cura had aptly described as the “liberty of perdition.” It also suggested that the Church had embraced the destructive historicism that Pius XII had condemned.

Bishop of Rome Document and Vatican I. Thanks in large part to the tragic reality that historicism has destroyed the concept of immutable truth in the minds of many (perhaps most) clerics and theologians, the authors of the new Bishop of Rome document did not need to even attempt to mask their contempt for immutable Catholic truth. While we could cite numerous examples from the document, arguably the most explicit is in the call to reinterpret Vatican I in the light of the most liberal readings of Vatican II’s documents:

“Among the proposals expressed by the dialogues, the call for a Catholic ‘re-reception’ or official commentary of Vatican I seems particularly important. Assuming the hermeneutical rule that the dogmas of Vatican I must be read in the light of Vatican II, especially its teaching on the People of God (LG, chapter II) and collegiality (LG 22–23), some dialogues reflect that Vatican II did not explicitly interpret Vatican I but, while incorporating its teaching, complemented it (LG, chapter III, 18).”

Footnote 13 cited Cardinal Ratzinger on the need to reinterpret Vatican I:

“Joseph Ratzinger: ‘Just as within Holy Scripture there is the phenomenon of relecture [...], so likewise the individual dogmas and pronouncements of the Councils are not to be understood as isolated, but rather in the process of dogmatic–historical relecture within this unity of the history of faith. [...] That this insight is of fundamental significance for the interpretation of Vatican I, is obvious’, (Joseph Ratzinger, Das neue Volk Gottes: Entwürfe zur Ekklesiologie, 2nd ed. [Düsseldorf: Patmos, 1970], 140–141)”

Of course the most striking illustration of this failure to appreciate the immutable nature of Catholic truth is the ongoing Synod on Synodality — with its listening sessions to discern how to change Catholic teaching.

This may surprise some Catholics, but we should recall that Henri de Lubac — who was a key proponent of historicism — had a tremendous influence of the future Benedict XVI. We can get a sense of de Lubac’s profound influence by reading the words of Cardinal Ratzinger’s 1988 forward to de Lubac’s famous book, Catholicism: Christ and the Common Destiny of Man:

“It is now almost forty years since, in late autumn of 1949, a friend gave me a copy of de Lubac’s book Catholicism. For me, the encounter with this book became an essential milestone on my theological journey. . . It was not only for me that de Lubac’s book marked such a turning point. It fascinated theologians in the fifties everywhere and his fundamental insights became the patrimony of theological reflection. The narrow-minded individualistic Christianity against which he strove is hardly our problem today. Everyone is teaching about the social dimension of dogma.”

Because, according to Cardinal Ratzinger, “everyone” was teaching de Lubac’s ideas in 1988, it should come as little surprise that relatively few Catholic clerics and theologians have any sense of the immutable nature of Catholic truth today.

Of course the most striking illustration of this failure to appreciate the immutable nature of Catholic truth is the ongoing Synod on Synodality — with its listening sessions to discern how to change Catholic teaching — but we can see an even more important example in Benedict XVI’s final address to the clergy of Rome. In it, the follower of de Lubac explained how various historical changes during his lifetime had led to theological changes. One of the most unfortunate comments related to the development of the pernicious teaching on ecumenism, which has effaced the teaching that there is no salvation outside the Church (absent standard exceptions):

“Finally, ecumenism. I do not want to enter now into these problems, but it was obvious – especially after the ‘passions’ suffered by Christians in the Nazi era – that Christians could find unity, or at least seek unity, yet it was also clear that God alone can bestow unity. And we are still following this path.”

According to Benedict XVI, the Nazi era caused theologians to rethink the teaching that the only path to unity was through a process of non-Catholics accepting immutable Catholic truth. But Pope Pius XII had condemned the key components of today’s ecumenical movement in Humani Generis, from 1950 (which was after the Nazi era). So perhaps it was “obvious” to some theological opportunists that the time was ripe to try to reshape fundamental Catholic teaching, but it was evidently obvious to Pius XII that Catholics had a duty to resist the false ecumenism that dominates Rome today. Unfortunately, we know which side prevailed at the Council.

Why is all of this important today? Historicism has caused the evil against which Pius XII had warned:

“There is also a certain historicism, which attributing value only to the events of man's life, overthrows the foundation of all truth and absolute law, both on the level of philosophical speculations and especially to Christian dogmas.”

The foundation of all truth and absolute law has been overthrown. Many Catholics rightly applauded Benedict XVI as he responded to the problems in the Church by trying to restore what his predecessors had demolished, but at best he was building on the same bad foundation. His conservative-leaning work masked the fact that the foundation of immutable truth continued to deteriorate.

We need a Catholic pope, but there is little hope of a Catholic pope until Catholics want immutable Catholic Faith. We need to overturn the godless schemes to erect a New World Order, but we can do that only with the immutable Catholic Faith God gave us. Hence, the most pressing need in the world today is to restore belief in the immutable Catholic Faith.

When we abandon the foundation of immutable truth, we offend God and, in a sense, deserve to lose the helps He wants to give us to overcome the current crisis. Why, in other words, would He intervene to resolve any of our more visible problems if we remain content to live with the damaged foundation that is of itself a rejection of God’s truth? We can even see all that is happening in the Church and world today as a fitting punishment for the collective abandonment of His divine truth.

The edition of SiSiNoNo cited above argued that restoration can only come by going back to the foundation of immutable truth:

“From what we have just seen, it logically follows that true restoration can only come by traveling along in a reverse direction from the one which led to the rupture or breaking away from the Doctrinal Tradition of the Church: a return to constant and durable philosophy, and therefore to Scholastic Theology, therefore to the Dogmatic tradition of the Church in faithful obedience to the constant directives and teachings of the Magisterium of all the Popes.”

This is not nearly as difficult as it may seem. Unlike the political realm in which our voices and votes count for nothing, in God’s Holy Catholic Church those who tell the truth have the power to build while others are destroying. So long as we act with charity, we never have to fear “offending the authorities” if we insist on immutable Catholic truth and reject the errors contrary to it. And today we have more reason than ever to know that the pre-Vatican II popes were correct when they denounced the Modernist and Liberal errors: we know this because we see firsthand the same damage they said would occur when Catholics abandoned truth and embraced errors.

God is God. You cannot reject the holy and salutary truths He gave us without causing tremendous damage. We need saints, but we cannot have saints without the immutable Catholic Faith. We need a Catholic pope, but there is little hope of a Catholic pope until Catholics want immutable Catholic Faith. We need to overturn the godless schemes to erect a New World Order, but we can do that only with the immutable Catholic Faith God gave us. Hence, the most pressing need in the world today is to restore belief in the immutable Catholic Faith. Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us!


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To: Trump_Triumphant

—> I concede that some bad Catholics did some bad things throughout history.

Wholesale slaughter of men, women, children, babies.

Plus systematic torture.


81 posted on 08/12/2024 10:22:07 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️ )
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To: metmom

Absolutely wrong!
Read what Christ said in the upper room to his Apostles.


82 posted on 08/12/2024 10:29:21 AM PDT by Texas_Guy
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To: Texas_Guy; metmom

Then read what the Apostles did with that. Start with Acts 2.


83 posted on 08/12/2024 11:29:50 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Trump_Triumphant

“I concede that some bad Catholics did some bad things throughout history.”

The child molesting by priests and the coverup is hardly “history”.

The anti-Pope freak is hardly “history”.

Own it—all of it.


84 posted on 08/12/2024 11:32:13 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: Trump_Triumphant

THE POINT IS...the Catholic Church murdered ANYONE they considered a heretic, NOT JUST PROTESTANTS. So, whether you agree with the definition of Albigensians or not, they were murdered by the Catholic Church.


85 posted on 08/12/2024 11:56:35 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Trump_Triumphant

——>Seventh Day Adventism has no room to attack ANY historical Church.

Why?


86 posted on 08/12/2024 12:00:06 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

It never ceases to amaze me how many grave sins many of the “saved” make light of and say won’t keep them out of Heaven: Contraception, pornography, willed lustful thoughts, masturbation, invalid marriages, In-vitro-fertilization, sterilization/vasectomy, hard case abortions... They deceive themselves.


87 posted on 08/12/2024 12:08:50 PM PDT by MDLION ("Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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To: Philsworld

I asked for a round number of the people the SDA put to death and told I was hysterical. That was the context Vespa put out there of changing laws and times and murder so how my questioning his/her data is hysterical is beyond me.


88 posted on 08/12/2024 12:09:26 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Depressed? Do what I did, replace your mirrors with "You Look Great!" signs.)
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To: MDLION; metmom; ealgeone; daniel1212; Mark17
It never ceases to amaze me how many grave sins many of the “saved” make light of and say won’t keep them out of Heaven: Contraception, pornography, willed lustful thoughts, masturbation, invalid marriages, In-vitro-fertilization, sterilization/vasectomy, hard case abortions... They deceive themselves.

And it never ceases to amaze me that those who claim the name of Christ believe He didn't die for the entirety of human sin and not just certain sins.

They pervert His sacrifice by minimizing what he suffered and died for... creating a heretical Christology.

...especially while they ignore the rampant homosexuality of the Roman priesthood, even among those assigned to the Vatican.


89 posted on 08/12/2024 12:42:17 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️ )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

He died for all sins but we can’t keep committing them and rationalizing them, saying we’re “saved” and so they don’t matter.

“If anyone sees his brother committing a sin that does not lead to death, he shall ask and God shall give him life - to those who commit sins that do not lead to death. There is sin that leads to death; I do not say that one should pray about that.” -1 Jn 5:16

Plenty of homosexuals and child molesters among Christian ministers and Christians but we’re supposed to pretend they only exist among Catholics.

You deny Jesus obviously calling us to confess our sins to a priest in John 20:19-23 because you’re prideful and lack humility, you’re dodging the humiliation of confessing certain things, though one can do it anonymously and to a priest 100 miles down the road. James 5:16 backs up John 20:19-23. How do you think 1 Jn 1:9 nullifies Jesus’ words or James 5:16? Do you really think The Word contradicts himself?

A Christian once asked a Catholic why he goes to Confession. The Catholic asked the Christian if he was married. “Yes,” the Christian replied. “Where did you get married?’ the Catholic asked. “In a church,” the Christian replied. “Why didn’t you just go to straight to Jesus?” the Catholic asked.


90 posted on 08/12/2024 1:20:21 PM PDT by MDLION ("Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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To: MDLION
It never ceases to amaze me how many grave sins many of the “saved” make light of and say won’t keep them out of Heaven: Contraception, pornography, willed lustful thoughts, masturbation, invalid marriages, In-vitro-fertilization, sterilization/vasectomy, hard case abortions... They deceive themselves.

Any sin is what keeps people out of heaven. All Adam and Eve did was eat a piece of fruit.

It isn't the sin per se that condemns you. It's the disobedience to God. If all you ever did was lie once in your entire life, you'd still be exempt from heaven.

Why? Because in James 2 he addresses this. It's the God you sin against, not the particular sin. Disobedience is disobedience, be it adultery, murder, or being a respecter of persons, ie. showing favoritism to people.

And when it gets down to the nuts and bolts of it, now that Christ has come and paid the penalty for sin, it's rejection of Christ and His finished worlk on the cross that keeps one out of heaven.

Besides, Catholicism has it's own laundry list of sins which are not even alluded to in Scripture. GOD determines what sin is, not man or some ecumenical council.

91 posted on 08/12/2024 2:07:03 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus”)
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To: MDLION; aMorePerfectUnion
He died for all sins but we can’t keep committing them and rationalizing them, saying we’re “saved” and so they don’t matter.

Are you saying you never tell a little lie? Never envious of others?

And how many Roman Catholics get drunk on the weekend, or whatever sin it might be, and go to the priest and confess the same sins over and over and over and over.

A Christian once asked a Catholic why he goes to Confession. The Catholic asked the Christian if he was married. “Yes,” the Christian replied. “Where did you get married?’ the Catholic asked. “In a church,” the Christian replied. “Why didn’t you just go to straight to Jesus?” the Catholic asked.

A person can get married in any location. It doesn't have to be in a building.

92 posted on 08/12/2024 2:07:53 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: MDLION; aMorePerfectUnion
He died for all sins but we can’t keep committing them and rationalizing them, saying we’re “saved” and so they don’t matter.

Catholics sure love setting up strawmen to knock down and then declare a victory lap.

No one Christian EVER said that our sin doesn't matter. It always matters and is taught so in Scripture.

What sin doesn't do to the believer, one who is saved, is send them to hell.

When we put our trust in Christ for forgiveness and salvation, the ENTIRE record of our sin debt to God is wiped out.

Colossians 2:13-14 And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross.

93 posted on 08/12/2024 2:11:41 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus”)
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To: Texas_Guy

What upper room?

Are you talking about the last supper?


94 posted on 08/12/2024 2:12:51 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus”)
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To: MDLION; ealgeone; metmom; daniel1212; Mark17
He died for all sins but we can’t keep committing them and rationalizing them, saying we’re “saved” and so they don’t matter.

In over 50 years of being a believer, I've never heard a single person express that thought, which is simply a trope or straw man argument. I've been on Free Republic for almost 25 years on the Religion forum. Never has any believer posted this that I've witnessed. Nice try.

Plenty of homosexuals and child molesters among Christian ministers and Christians but we’re supposed to pretend they only exist among Catholics.

Real Christian churches fire them and turn them over to police. The Roman church shuffled them around to hide them and give them fresh children to abuse. The Vatican knows there are drug and sex parties happening on vatican grounds and ignore it. 30-50% of the Roman priesthood is gay. Their condemnation is rightly deserved.

You deny Jesus obviously calling us to confess our sins to a priest in John 20:19-23 because you’re prideful and lack humility, you’re dodging the humiliation of confessing certain things, though one can do it anonymously and to a priest 100 miles down the road.

I guess it is wonderful you've developed the ability to mind-read in clear violation of the religion forum rules, but keep working at it. You are entirely wrong - again.

If you read greek, you would know where you are incorrect...

The second part of each conditional clause in this verse is in the passive voice and the perfect tense in the Greek text. The passive voice indicates that someone has already done the forgiving or retaining. That person must be God, since He alone has the authority to do that (Matt. 9:2–3; Mark 2:7; Luke 5:21). The perfect tense indicates that the action has continuing effects; the sins stand forgiven or retained, at least temporarily, if not permanently.

Jesus was saying that when His disciples went to others with the message of salvation, as He had done, some people would believe and others would not. Reaction to their ministry would be the same as reaction to His had been. He viewed their forgiving and retaining the sins of their hearers as the actions of God’s representatives.

In summary, Christ didn't give the disciples the power to forgive sin. They were to declare the forgiveness of the Gospel of Grace to all who entrusted themselves to Him alone for salvation.

How do you think 1 Jn 1:9 nullifies Jesus’ words or James 5:16?

James does not mention confessing our sins to a priest - only other believers - in order to pray for each other and not to receive forgiveness. You added a priest to the passage where one didn't exist and added forgiveness that isn't there. Naughty.

Finally, marriage is not forgiveness nor confession. Nor is a priest nor a church building required for either.

95 posted on 08/12/2024 2:23:47 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️ )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
The second part of each conditional clause in this verse is in the passive voice and the perfect tense in the Greek text. The passive voice indicates that someone has already done the forgiving or retaining. That person must be God, since He alone has the authority to do that (Matt. 9:2–3; Mark 2:7; Luke 5:21). The perfect tense indicates that the action has continuing effects; the sins stand forgiven or retained, at least temporarily, if not permanently.

Jesus was saying that when His disciples went to others with the message of salvation, as He had done, some people would believe and others would not. Reaction to their ministry would be the same as reaction to His had been. He viewed their forgiving and retaining the sins of their hearers as the actions of God’s representatives.

And to add to this excellent summary, we see this being carried out in Acts 2.

Neither Peter or any of the disciples tells the people to come confess their sins to them, do penance, say Hail Mary's or anything close to that.

They make it clear they need to repent and trust in Christ....and only Christ.

96 posted on 08/12/2024 2:37:41 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: metmom

Nailed it.


97 posted on 08/12/2024 2:38:32 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
Neither Peter or any of the disciples tells the people to come confess their sins to them, do penance, say Hail Mary's or anything close to that. They make it clear they need to repent and trust in Christ....and only Christ.

Amen!

98 posted on 08/12/2024 2:45:53 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️ )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; patriot torch; metmom
The divide between New Testament Christianity and Roman Catholicism is evident on this forum.

Rome believes in works to earn and/or keep your salvation....a totally unscriptural viewpoint.

They differentiate between small sins and big sins when in reality all sin separates us from God as per Romans 3:23.

IMHO this explains why many RCs turn to idols such as the Brown Scapular and/or Miraculous Medal to try and avoid the hell-fire.

They simply are not demonstrating faith in Christ Who is the only One Who can save anyone.

New Testament Christianity believes in faith in Christ knowing that any "good deeds" we do are completely insufficient to save us in any degree.

And as it is God Who saves us and seals us with the Holy Spirit we can be 100% confident He will keep us and never let us go.

99 posted on 08/12/2024 2:56:35 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ebb tide

Apparently the truth isn’t as immutable as everybody was told, or it would need no restoration.


100 posted on 08/12/2024 3:08:11 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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