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Buffalo and Erie County are very heavily Catholic, I’d say about 90% of the population. LARGE Polish and Italian populations.

I am bit familiar with the demographics.

More importantly, I am familiar with Buffalo's Bishop Head, who served over 20 years, and was easily one of the worst bishops in the country. Much of the responsibility lays at his feet. Nearby Albany also had one of the worst bishops in the country. Worse, Bishop Hubbard was appointed young and and held the spot for 37 years. The Wanderer newspaper printed a 12 part series called "The Agony in Albany" and it had reported on homo misconduct in ALbany and Dallas MANY years before it broke out in the secular media, in part because lefty bishops were at the head.

The political corruption starting with Mario the Pious on down did not help things. I recall the bishops also cut a deal with Nelson Rockefeller (No friend of Catholics, he) to lighten up on abortion opposition in exchange for state funding of incidentals (busings? food?) to parochial schools. Dante talked about the floor of Hell littered with the skulls of bishops. Some of them were in NY.

I also know that Buffalo, NY had some serious Operation Rescue activity led by Catholics, and those folks had no use for pro-abort Democrats. Some of them were actually pretty likely to vote 3rd Party when the Republican alternative was George the Elder or Bob Dole, but NEVER a Dem.

Some Catholics who wanted an excuse to vote Dem would claim that SCOTUS took the question out of the political realm. Well, that excuse (sorry as it was) is GONE.

I do know in southern NY state (e.g. Syracuse, Vestal, Duchess County) there were some really good Catholic pro-lifers. You may not have seen them in your day-to-day life, but I suspect even where you are, there are more anti-Dem Catholics who keep their heads low due to corruption and mandated political correctness.

I am originally from Connecticut, so I have some NY experience. Beautiful country, ruined by NYC and bad men.

Beautiful country, ruined by NYC and bad men.

Which was probably the biggest factor in us leaving NYS.

We had talked about retiring in NH and when cuomo signed that horrendous abortion bill and the state government cheered it, I said to mr. mm that we needed to get out soon.

And did, none too soon. God dropped a great house in our laps only months before Covid and the lockdowns hit.

I did meet more conservative Catholics in CNY than I ever encountered in WNY. But anything more than none is something.