Posted on 07/10/2024 2:49:15 PM PDT by Morgana
This street preacher is out from of an LGBTQ Church and the "pastor" came out and is tongue tied when trying to discuss the Bible.
Open Door Worship Center is the name of the church.
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Oh you really need to see this one
Before we can be saved we have to change our mind (repent) about two things. One is to admit that we’re sinners who would be hopelessly lost without a Savior, and the other is to believe that God sent His Son to pay the penalty due us for our sins so He could be our Savior. Therefore repentance comes before salvation, and that’s why we say, “Repent and be saved.”
Some people have the mistaken belief that to repent means to change our behavior. But if that was the case the phrase “repent and be saved” would mean we’d all have to stop sinning before we could be saved. It doesn’t make sense.
Many believers do experience a change in their behavior after they’re saved, But when that happens it’s not called repentance, It’s called the regeneration of the Holy Spirit.
By Jack Kelley Sunday November 1st, 2015
If he doesn’t need forgiveness for his sins, he won’t get it.
That “pastor” needs to turn away from his sin before it’s too late.
You need to ping this one to Campion. He has a different outlook but maybe he will appreciate this.
I’ve noticed a pattern here when it comes to these street preachers debating them.
They ways pick up the same bible verses.
First is “love they neighbor” Yes that is true but they are not engaging in love that is lust.
second is where Jesus would hang out with tax collectors and prostitutes. Jesus told the tax collectors to be honest in what they collected and the prostitutes to sin no more.
third is “judge not...” that one is too lengthy to go into but you get the point.
They don’t tell these people to turn from their sin.
[They don’t tell these people to turn from their sin.]
Nope.
And they gon’t let the Holy Spirit work on them from the inside.
Rather, they “affirm” that it’s all good. SMH
Well, of course. A change of one’s mind is required for a change in behavior that is not forced.
The two go together.
### Before we can be saved we have to change our mind (repent) about two things. One is to admit that we’re sinners who would be hopelessly lost without a Savior, and the other is to believe that God sent His Son to pay the penalty due us for our sins so He could be our Savior. ###
Aren’t those two things essentially the *belief* that occurs when one hears the gospel and *believes*? If these define ‘repentance’, then please explain to me what ‘belief’ is.
Once one believes, then it’s time to change one’s ways. Am I correct in understanding that your view of ‘repentance’ is an absolute, instantaneous, and total change? Meaning, we change *everything* ‘cold turkey’?
My experience is that repentance is evolutionary, beginning as ‘babes in Christ’, then maturing as one becomes aware of sin and invokes a process of discarding that sin.
In the story of Simon, the Sorcerer, the Lord causes the narrative to be written so that it is obvious that Simon is a Christian; it says (the Lord says) “…Simon believed and was baptized...” After Simon messes up, Peter commands Simon to repent of his sin. Simon, according to your view as I understand it, has already repented, because earlier he had believed he was lost and that Jesus was his Savior. So how can Simon repent again? Peter commands Simon to repent of his sin, not of his unbelief.
Who is wrong here? Peter? The Holy Spirit guiding Luke as he writes Acts? The Holy Spirit guiding Peter as he speaks to Simon? The Lord who is advising the Holy Spirit? All of the above? None of the above?
But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.
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