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Catholics and Abortion
Natinal Review ^ | June 17, 2024 | Madeleine Kearns

Posted on 06/18/2024 10:06:05 AM PDT by Morgana

Pew’s recent report on Catholics in the United States notes that around 20 percent of U.S. adults describe themselves as Catholic.

Of this number, only three in ten say they attend Mass weekly or more often, which means that seven in ten Catholics are not practicing their faith. This is necessary context to consider the number of Catholics in the poll, six in ten, who think that abortion should be legal.

To illustrate this distinction, consider an earlier Pew report from May 2022, which noted that:

Among Catholics who attend Mass at least once a week, about two-thirds (68%) say abortion should be illegal in all or most cases, and about half or fewer support exceptions that would make abortion legal in the case of rape (43%) or threats to the life or health of the mother (49%).

Most Mass attenders also believe life begins at conception. Seven-in-ten Catholics who go to church at least once a week say the statement “Human life begins at conception, so a fetus is a person with rights” describes their own views very or extremely well. [Emphasis added]

Nevertheless, even among Catholics who fulfill their Sunday obligation, heretical beliefs are not uncommon. Take Joe Biden, for instance, who attends Mass weekly yet flagrantly disregards his church’s teaching on abortion.

A Catholic who practices selectively is ipso facto a bad Catholic. Cardinal Wilton Gregory, archbishop of Washington, nearly said as much on an Easter Sunday appearance on CBS’s Face the Nation.

Gregory said the president appears to have a “very sincere faith” but is nevertheless a “cafeteria Catholic” who “picks and chooses dimensions of the faith to highlight while ignoring or even contradicting other parts.”

He continued: “You can’t pick and choose. You’re either one who respects life in all of its dimensions, or you have to step aside.”

Or as Jesus Christ put it: “Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters.”


TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues
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Or as Jesus Christ put it: “Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters.”
1 posted on 06/18/2024 10:06:05 AM PDT by Morgana
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I go every Sunday and I can’t remember the last time a priest mentioned abortion (or anything similar).


2 posted on 06/18/2024 10:10:39 AM PDT by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: Morgana
Take Joe Biden, for instance, who attends Mass weekly yet flagrantly disregards his church’s teaching on abortion.

His excuse is that he's senile lol.

3 posted on 06/18/2024 10:12:30 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: escapefromboston

I see what I can find online


4 posted on 06/18/2024 10:13:24 AM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

The good news... If you were baptized in the Catholic religion then you get to go to heaven, unlike the rest of you heathens. Just make sure there’s a priest near by to give you your last rights.


5 posted on 06/18/2024 10:15:00 AM PDT by jerod (Nazis were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: escapefromboston

There is a priest in our area who mentions it almost every week. “Pride” and “gender ideology” too. He’s a no-holds-barred, take-no-prisoners kind of guy.


6 posted on 06/18/2024 10:15:01 AM PDT by fidelis (Ecce Crucem Domini! Fugite partes adversae! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia!)
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To: Morgana
I'm Catholic. I will always be Catholic. I stopped going to Mass when, for a full month, I was told by an obviously gay priest that God approved of homosexuality and we need to accept that.

No.

Now a few folks and I get together at somebody's home on Sunday. We pray, talk, look for answers, try to figure out what God's telling us in the Bible, and generally try to navigate life, and faith, and everything else.

I'm still Catholic; I just went way old-school with the Catholicism and I hope He approves. Figure if He doesn't, He'd have let me know by now.
7 posted on 06/18/2024 10:17:43 AM PDT by Retrofitted
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To: escapefromboston

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I847iExXELA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcnAqVkiV3I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqZ0XCNYJWM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBnkCcB0tds

That is just a few but seems all the ones that preach it are on youtube.


8 posted on 06/18/2024 10:20:20 AM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Retrofitted

“I was told by an obviously gay priest that God approved of homosexuality and we need to accept that.”

You need to complain to the bishop!


9 posted on 06/18/2024 10:21:11 AM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: escapefromboston

Since the Pope criticized the Church for talking about abortion too much (“It is not necessary to talk about these issues all the time”) I find the rate of abortion mentions in sermons has remained constant ...

at about 1 mention every 3 years.


10 posted on 06/18/2024 10:24:54 AM PDT by edwinland
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To: Morgana

I did, along with a few others. They replaced him — as I recall, they moved him to Washington — but it made me feel uncomfortable with the priesthood from then forward. I know it’s my problem, but I’ve prayed and prayed about it and just cannot feel comfortable going back.


11 posted on 06/18/2024 10:26:16 AM PDT by Retrofitted
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To: Morgana
Gregory said the president appears to have a “very sincere faith” but is nevertheless a “cafeteria Catholic” who “picks and chooses dimensions of the faith to highlight while ignoring or even contradicting other parts.”

Yet, Gregory has refused to instruct his priests to refuse Holy Communion to well-known pro-aborts, Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi in his Archdiocese of Washington, D.C., unlike Archbishop Cordileone who has refused Pelosi Holy Communion in her home Archdiocese of San Francisco.

12 posted on 06/18/2024 10:37:04 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Retrofitted

There are still a lot of great priests out there. Don’t be discouraged.


13 posted on 06/18/2024 10:41:27 AM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Retrofitted

He doesn’t approve, and there’s nothing old school about what you’re doing.


14 posted on 06/18/2024 10:45:52 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: escapefromboston

I can’t remember the last time a priest mentioned abortion (or anything of any consequence). The number of good homilies I’ve heard can be counted on one hand.


15 posted on 06/18/2024 11:08:13 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Retrofitted
...but it made me feel uncomfortable with the priesthood from then forward. I know it’s my problem, but I’ve prayed and prayed about it and just cannot feel comfortable going back.

Plus you get to sleep in on Sundays now, right?

16 posted on 06/18/2024 11:50:17 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

lol Always did. I was a Saturday Evening Catholic, unless I was needed on Sunday.


17 posted on 06/18/2024 12:03:04 PM PDT by Retrofitted
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To: Retrofitted
Now a few folks and I get together at somebody's home on Sunday. We pray, talk, look for answers, try to figure out what God's telling us in the Bible, and generally try to navigate life, and faith, and everything else.

Did you get to the part where St. Paul says:

8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9  As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed. — Galatians 1:8-9

Seems to me that a better response would have been to let him be accursed, rather than accursing yourself.

18 posted on 06/18/2024 12:18:29 PM PDT by scouter (As for me and my household... We will serve the LORD.)
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To: scouter

Hmmmm that I’ll need to think on, though I’m missing how I’m accursed because a group of friends talk about our faith and help each other with questions. Thanks for that (sincerely, not sarcastically).


19 posted on 06/18/2024 12:45:53 PM PDT by Retrofitted
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To: Retrofitted

Talking about your faith and helping each other is all well and good. But substituting that for receiving Our Lord… well that’s another story entirely.

“So Jesus said to them, ‘Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.’“ John 6:53

Why would you deprive yourself of life because of one stupid priest? Or even over many stupid and unfaithful priests? It’s spiritual suicide.


20 posted on 06/18/2024 1:05:42 PM PDT by scouter (As for me and my household... We will serve the LORD.)
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