Is it fair to say because Jesus didn’t mention homosexuality, He was for it?

Christian Post ^ | 06/15/2024 | Jason Jimenez

[cuz1961]

yup

+

Jhn 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

\/

the whole book

is what Jesus, the Word, said .

[Elsie]

Matthew 10:15 New International Version

Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.

Golly!

I wonder just what Jesus was thinking about here?

Sodomites that didn’t hold to the Sabbath laws?

[Elsie]

(I shudda read ahead)!

[DownInFlames]

By staying silent, he implicitly refers to the Hebrew law and its stance. This carried over to modern Christianity.

[Elsie]

Sodomy shows up in the bible BEFORE the Ten Commandments do.

---

 

 

Genesis 13:13

Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.

---

We are living in a Genesis 19:9 world...

 

"Get out of our way,” they replied.
“This fellow came here as a foreigner, and now he wants to play the judge!
We’ll treat you worse than them.”
They kept bringing pressure on Lot and moved forward to break down the door.

---

Leviticus niv

18:22 Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.

20:13 If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. 

           They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

 

 

---

---

Psalms 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them;

they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it.

Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

================================================

2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight.

They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

================================================

Ezekiel 16:49-50  "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom:

She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.

They were haughty and did detestable things before me.

 Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

 

---

Romans 1     New American Bible (Revised Edition) (NABRE)

 

 18 The wrath of God is indeed being revealed from heaven against every impiety and wickedness of those who suppress the truth by their wickedness. 19 For what can be known about God is evident to them, because God made it evident to them. 20 Ever since the creation of the world, his invisible attributes of eternal power and divinity have been able to be understood and perceived in what he has made. As a result, they have no excuse; 21 for although they knew God they did not accord him glory as God or give him thanks. Instead, they became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless minds were darkened. 22 While claiming to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for the likeness of an image of mortal man or of birds or of four-legged animals or of snakes.

 

24 Therefore, God handed them over to impurity through the lusts of their hearts for the mutual degradation of their bodies. 25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie and revered and worshiped the creature rather than the creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. 26 Therefore, God handed them over to degrading passions. Their females exchanged natural relations for unnatural, 27 and the males likewise gave up natural relations with females and burned with lust for one another. Males did shameful things with males and thus received in their own persons the due penalty for their perversity. 28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God handed them over to their undiscerning mind to do what is improper. 29 They are filled with every form of wickedness, evil, greed, and malice; full of envy, murder, rivalry, treachery, and spite. 

---

2 Peter 2

1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

---

What kind of a people are we;

that we allow men dressed in womens clothes

to pervert the minds of little children?

---

But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

  9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
      Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...

---

---

 

Psalms 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them;

they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it.

Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

================================================

2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight.

They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

================================================

Ezekiel 16:49-50  "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom:

She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.

They were haughty and did detestable things before me.

 Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

 

---

Romans 1     New American Bible (Revised Edition) (NABRE)

 

 18 The wrath of God is indeed being revealed from heaven against every impiety and wickedness of those who suppress the truth by their wickedness. 19 For what can be known about God is evident to them, because God made it evident to them. 20 Ever since the creation of the world, his invisible attributes of eternal power and divinity have been able to be understood and perceived in what he has made. As a result, they have no excuse; 21 for although they knew God they did not accord him glory as God or give him thanks. Instead, they became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless minds were darkened. 22 While claiming to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for the likeness of an image of mortal man or of birds or of four-legged animals or of snakes.

 

24 Therefore, God handed them over to impurity through the lusts of their hearts for the mutual degradation of their bodies. 25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie and revered and worshiped the creature rather than the creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. 26 Therefore, God handed them over to degrading passions. Their females exchanged natural relations for unnatural, 27 and the males likewise gave up natural relations with females and burned with lust for one another. Males did shameful things with males and thus received in their own persons the due penalty for their perversity. 28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God handed them over to their undiscerning mind to do what is improper. 29 They are filled with every form of wickedness, evil, greed, and malice; full of envy, murder, rivalry, treachery, and spite. 

---

2 Peter 2

1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

---

What kind of a people are we;

that we allow men dressed in womens clothes

to pervert the minds of little children?

---

But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

  9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
      Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...

---

---

[Ge0ffrey]

Jesus did mention eunuchs, however.

[Elsie]

 

 

Genesis 13:13

Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

 

 

Golly! 

I wonder what this 'sin' is that is being pointed out here??

[hecticskeptic]

In Leviticus, Moses lists sexual tiers from bad to worse: 1. adultery, 2. homosexuality, 3. incest, and 4. bestiality.
_____________
I am going to have to read and research that. For starters, I didn’t know there was a stronger word than ‘abomination’ used in scripture.... On one level, is it logical that there be tiers? Sin is sin and I don’t think scripture supports a view that some parts of hell are hotter than others....

Here is a question that I am hoping someone can educate me on......Obviously there were two occasions in scripture when incest was not only allowed but encouraged. The first was after Adam and Eve and the second was after the flood when humanity was essentially starting over. There are other examples in scripture where something ‘prohibited’ is allowed for God’s purpose to be fulfilled.....but is it clearly outlined in scripture when the line was crossed chronologically so that incest moved from the permitted category to the sin category? And is that line clearly defined? How far from siblings does one have to be for it to no longer be considered incest?

I’m sure scripture lays all this out.....likely in Leviticus. Perhaps someone who is up on this topic can offer some thoughts or suggesta a good resource.....

[antidemoncrat]

In Genesis it says God created man and woman. It doesn’t say God created a man who later self identified as a woman or a woman that later self identified as a man.

[Salvavida]

The Lord validated all of Scripture by his life, death, burial, and resurrection.Only the biblically illiterate would ask such a question. Is Romans 1 less of Scripture than the Gospels? 1 Cor 6:9? All of Revelation?

It would be more intellectually honest to say that Jesus didn’t resurrect, as the Muslims assert.

[bray]

Jesus called homosexuality a sin a number of times.

[Zuriel]

**Jhn 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
\/
the whole book
is what Jesus, the Word, said.**

And where did those words come from?....

...God the Father. The Son of God gave witness to that. Here are a few examples:

“...but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.** (John 8:26)

“For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.” John 12:49

“Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.” John 14:10

“I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me;...” (John 17:8)

“I have given them thy word...” (John 17:14)

[The Louiswu]

Hey, ya’ll have free will so do what you like but remember that there is price to be paid for everything, there is no such thing as a free lunch.

[rmichaelj]

You left out that all major protestant denominations also condemned contraception until the Anglicans changed their teaching at the Lambeth conference in 1930.

This is not surprising as your reference material is from the UCG which in addition to not being Tinitarian (they believe that the Father and Jesus are seperate beings and that the Holy Spirit is not a Person at all) also believes that both Catholic and Protestant denominations fell away from the Faith a long time ago.

Your statement that the Catholic Church teaches sex is dirty and evil demonstrates your lack of an even basic understanding of the Catholic Faith or a parroting of propaganda (including those who have had experience with bad or fallen away catholics who have an axe to grind)

[Salman]

The "silent" argument was never a real argument advanced in good faith. It was always disingenuous special pleading.

In general, nothing said by leftists can ever be taken at face value.

[MayflowerMadam]

LOL..

[JackFromTexas]

“God’s pretty clear in the OT about homosexuality”

The gospel of John makes it pretty clear that Jesus was with God and was God in the beginning, and since. So Jesus did say He was opposed to homosexuality. From the Beginning.

[metmom]

The hypocrites weasel out of that be saying there was not an explicit, directly stated quote from Him about it in words that they approve of.

[SaveFerris]

(“I did not come to change the Law but to fulfill it.)

🔝🔝🔝

✝️🙏🛐

[SaveFerris]

Exactly