Posted on 05/17/2024 7:20:25 PM PDT by Morgana
Edited on 05/17/2024 8:14:22 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
OCEAN GROVE, N.J. (AP) — In this seaside community that calls itself “God’s Square Mile at the Jersey Shore,” all the land is owned by a religious group that has for generations enforced an 11th Commandment: Thou shalt stay off the beach on Sunday morning.
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Yes you are Mrs Greenblatt. You are very anti Christian. Like it would just kill you to wait till noon to go to the beach on Sunday. You expect respect for your religion but give none for ours.
1 Thessalonians 2:15
America is no longer a Christian nation, thanks to the neoCON globohomo and Marxist Dem scum who sold us out for their new religion of “diversity” just like their hero Nimrod.
It’s a strange rule. Jewish go to church Saturday. Some Catholics also go Saturday night. Muslims go Friday night. They probably should close those days as well to keep the Sunday closure.
Back when I was a kid in a small town in Georgia,
all of the stores closed at noon on Wednesday.
I don’t think it was by law, but by social agreement.
After church, Christian’s flock to the grocery stores, maybe that’s why a Sunday noon start time. Get the errands done first. Not a bad strategy.
I wonder if someone comes and chases everyone off the beach
at midnight on Saturday night???
I was inclined to let this go as a Sabbath rule that wasn’t really needed.
Until I heard form the chorus of the “usual suspects” demanding change to their benefit.
Just go to another beach or go on another day. It hardly seems like a problem for anyone but since its a Christian group I suspect the state will throw them in jail for 10 years. Reminds of the gay wedding cake stories we get in the news when the solution is easy, just go get a different cake.
I respect most religious traditions, especially Christian ones, as I am most familiar with the stories behind those traditions. However, much has changed over time on what is acceptable for most Christians. When I grew up. during early “60’s it used to be all department stores were closed on Sundays. Closed and locked. Then. it became acceptable for some places of business to be open on Sundays, but not till after 12 noon, when our local church, St. Cecilia had finished the 11am Mass and homily. It may be time to adjust to the present needs of that community, without making it another feud or war of the roses.
It’s only 0.6 miles of beach. Yenta Greenblatt can go north or south on Sunday morning for many more miles of open beach in either direction if she just has to be at the beach so badly. Next she’ll move in next to JFK and demand no flights from 7 pm to 8 am.
She may not be anti-Christian but she is a poster child for whiners everywhere.
“It’s a strange rule. Jewish go to church Saturday. Some Catholics also go Saturday night. Muslims go Friday night. They probably should close those days as well to keep the Sunday closure.”
They are Methodists.
Hey. That’s enough. I am Episcopalian. Dunno about beaches but I always thought you spent Sunday worshipping God on the yachting course or the golf course, in all his splendor and glory.
“The dispute involves an issue that has been contested for generations but never quite settled here: Does a religious group have the right to impose its beliefs on everyone in a community, including those of other faiths, or no faith at all? “
Don’t they own the beach property (I know part of it is public) but they should at least be able to set rules for what they own. If people want access let them buy land to provide it.
Shabatt IS on Saturday, although one may celebrate on the day one chooses.
I don't always listen to Motörhead but when I do, my neighbors do too.
Let people have what they want. They want skin cancer? That’s on them.
Many of the women (and some men) want to wear what is basically industrial grade underwear in public. There’s a reason for that, and it’s not because they supposedly love a holy Savior.
The reason to have closed beaches, ballparks, gymnasiums, used to be because the church houses were full at those times, and many of the people that worked at those places were at church.
American Jews have done nothing to earn the respect of American Christians....at every turn, they insist on spitting in the face of Christianity...IMO
Restricting activity on Sunday morning is central to Ocean Grove’s very existence. It was founded in 1869 as a Methodist retreat, centered on an enormous hall called The Great Auditorium, where worship services are held near rows of tent cabins where summer pilgrims come to live in its shadow. The association, a nonprofit Christian entity that owns the beach and the land under all of Ocean Grove’s houses under a charter given to it by the state in 1870, has long kept people off the beach before noon on Sundays.
In court papers, the association writes that “all members of the public are welcome (onto the beach) 365 days a year. Anyone, regardless of race, creed, religion or orientation is welcome onto this private property 99.5% of the year.”
Does a religious group have the right to impose its beliefs on everyone
in court papers it says what the state is trying to do violates U.S. Constitutional amendments concerning freedom of religion, the taking of private property, and due process and equal protection.
Separation of church and sand/surf? There are imposing nothing here any more than forbidding disruption of religious services.
So if a church owns anything else it can regulate the who and when of access, but not a beach section?
Apparently no entity can except the state:https://www.nj.gov/dep/cmp/access/njparightslegal.htm
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