Posted on 05/16/2024 7:11:27 AM PDT by ebb tide
Now isn't that convenient???
Christ came to do away with all that. The Apostle is simply saying that we’re not justified by being Jew but are justified by being Christian.
If salvation is based on "merit," then the chrstian religion isn't necessary. There was already a religion, indisputably from G-d Himself, that had "works" and rituals and ceremonies and laws. The very idea that "faith vs. works" boils down to the old (Biblical) religion vs. the new (post-Biblical) religion is the height of hypocrisy. This argument is essentially Protestant and chrstianity brought Protestantism on itself by fulminating against G-d given laws while insisting on man-made laws.
Just desserts.
There is good reason this discussion continues after centuries of debate referring to the same source. Reformers claim that Jesus Paid it All, and it’s insulting to Him to say otherwise. The Eastern and Roman traditions claim we need to stay in the orthodox/apostolic communion and work it out with fear and trembling. Both are supported in the Book, too.
Correct. One must keep believing, must hold fast to one's faith in Christ's finished work on the cross.
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The Catholic Church is the One Institution of Faith established by Christ, outside of which there is no salvation. The Church is the unwritten word of God while the Bible is the written word, but both are of equal authority and must be accepted by the faithful. St. Paul himself says:
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Paul says:
Christ, our Passover Lamb.
Unleavened Bread of Sincerity and Truth
First Fruits of those fallen asleep
The Catholic Church has substituted those with three days with three of their own,in contrast to Paul’s first importance of the gospel, leading to a False Christ and a False Gospel
The writer should worry about the False Security in False religion with a Fase Christ and False Gospel.
And hope that’s not a salvation issue..
——>Once saved, always saved isn’t.
Not according to many bible “experts” on this site. Once and forever saved at the microsecond of grace, locked in, and absolutely NOTHING can ever keep you out of heaven.
I see that you appear to have that false security, roving.
This doesn’t need a long answer. Just read John, Romans and Galatians very slowly.
On this we agree. Belive means to belive with Heart.
Let me get this straight. In order to be saved I have to belong to a Church run by a pervert-loving communist who has been shielding child molesters from prosecution?
While I sympathize with the premise of the article, it is riddled with errors.
“Nowhere in the Gospel does Christ prescribe such a thing, nor is the term ‘personal savior’ found anywhere in the Bible.”
Paul, who told us to follow his example, made it personal:
Galatians 2:20 NKJV
I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.
Yes, Jesus died for the whole world, but it is importasnt to realize that He “died for me”. That’s personal.
I agree with the article that the corrupted modern message of salvation tolerates sin and presumes upon the mercy of God. Some of the scriptures cited here are exactly the reason that many “Christians” are headed toward Hell rather than Heaven.
The remedy proposed here uses the strawman of Luther. The Reformation included many leaders who did not fall into the errors which Luther is accused of making. The Reformation produced good works, works of faith, and fruits of salvation which, as the article correctly asserts ARE REQUIRED to inherit eternal life.
However, these outcomes are the result of repentance and faith, BECAUSE God’s grace always and actively works in the believer to produce them.
100% of the time. This is because salvation is ultimately a demonstration of the sovereign power of God.
It was never a question.
So according to your misguided logic, the "whole world" is saved. So it's not that "personal", is it?
No. You only have to belong to the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church founded by Jesus Christ.
All other “churches” are false.
Awful lot of garbage spewed in a small place!
“the born-again formula is to simply accept Christ as “personal savior” to secure “being saved” without any need for works, penance, or prayer.”
REPENTANCE - as the Scriptures say - comes before being born again. Works follow being born again because, as scripture says:
“This is the covenant that I will make with them
in the days to come, says the Lord:
I will put my laws in their hearts
and write them on their minds.”
17 And then he says, “I will not remember their sins and evil deeds any longer.” - Hebrews 10
The HOLY SPIRIT will change you, from the inside out. GOD promises.
“Doing penance” is trying to earn the gift of salvation, which comes from what Jesus said, “The right time has come and the Kingdom of God is near! Turn away from your sins and believe the Good News!” - Mark 1
But you go on trying to earn your way, and pushing lies that we MAKE God accept us by our good deeds.
Where do you come up with such nonsense?
What? The Protestants don't believe in repentance. Once saved, always saved. Jesus died for their sins and they're home free.
Do Baptists and Lutherans are fake Christians?
So once Mr Rogers is born-again, he has no further need of repantence for his future sins?
Is that correct?
Or is that once Mr Rogers is born-again, he is incapable of ever sinning again?
Which is it, Mr Rogers?
He probably doesn’t know the definition of “eternal”.
Go back to post #33 and read it slowly this time.
The answer is there.
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