Born-Again zealots always make sure that Jesus Crucified is not on the Cross
Posted on 05/16/2024 7:11:27 AM PDT by ebb tide
Born-Again zealots always make sure that Jesus Crucified is not on the Cross
In Holy Scripture, St. Paul says, “There shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears.” (2 Timothy 4:3)
The sound doctrine of Christ is to embrace and live the Cross of Christ and to do penance for our sins, but instead we have false teachers today who run about luring millions into the deception of presuming on God’s mercy. This heresy has especially taken root in the “born-again” sect, which is grounded in the unwillingness to account for sin. The born-again formula is to simply accept Christ as “personal savior” to secure “being saved” without any need for works, penance, or prayer.
However, this personal savior formula is worthless and unfounded. Nowhere in the Gospel does Christ prescribe such a thing, nor is the term “personal savior” found anywhere in the Bible.
Abstract and Impersonal
The fact is that the born-again religion is very abstract and impersonal. They cry “Lord, Lord,” but they don’t want to see Christ’s pictures, they don’t want to see his face, they don’t want to hear his voice, they refuse to hear his prophets, they refuse to obey his commands, they mock his miracles and saints, they refuse to look at a Crucifix – they want nothing to do with him! They just want to scrap Catholicism and feel “saved” on account of it.
Luther’s definition of “repent” was to protest the Catholic Church and the born-again sect echoes this ideology to the core. What they have fashioned for themselves is a manmade counter-church without spirit – a golden calf.
Luther’s Invention
The born-again idea of unconditional forgiveness was started by Martin Luther. As a secret society initiate, he engaged in lengthy conversations with the devil, which in turn gave birth to his “doctrine on justification.” He referred to the Catholic Church as a “whore” and called the pope a “pig.” He lived a life of adultery and blasphemed Christ by saying:
“Christ committed adultery first of all with the woman at the well… Secondly with Mary Magdalene, and thirdly with the woman taken in adultery.” (Luther’s Works, American Edition, Volume 54, p. 154, Concordia Publishing House.)
With his blackened conscience catching up with him, Luther then invented the idea of “sin and be saved” so that he wouldn’t have to feel accountable for his sins.
Luther’s famous quote to his associate Philip Melanchthon expresses perfectly his doctrine on justification.
"Be a sinner and sin boldly, but believe and rejoice in Christ even more boldly…. No sin will separate us from the Christ, even though we commit fornication and murder a thousand times a day.” (From Luther’s letter to Philip Melanchthon, August 1, 1521, LW Vol. 48, pp. 281, 282)
Herein lies the crux of Luther’s doctrine, which forms the basis of the Born-Again religion. According to the born-again “Christians,” one needn’t obey God to be saved since Jesus “already paid the price,” but Jesus didn't die on the Cross so we can sin. He died rather that we may never sin again. He said, "Follow me," he didn't say follow our lusts and passions, or to run after false prophets.
People will argue that Christ is Savior and that only he can save. Christ indeed is the Savior of the world but he won’t save anyone unless they obey him. “For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.” (Romans 2:13)
Heaven Gained by Merit
One is justified by works, love, and obedience, not by empty lip service. As Christ says, "Why do you call me, Lord, Lord; and do not the things which I say?" (Luke 6: 46) What Christ requires is obedience and the keeping of his commandments. "If you love me, keep my commandments." (John 14:15)
Scripture tells us that Christ will "render to every man according to his works." (Romans 2:6) The Apostle James reminds us that “faith without works is dead.” (James 2: 20,26). Christ Himself said that neglecting good works incurs eternal damnation. On Judgment Day He will declare to the negligent:
“Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry, and you gave me not to eat: I was thirsty, and you gave me not to drink. I was a stranger, and you took me not in: naked, and you covered me not: sick and in prison, and you did not visit me…. And these shall go into everlasting punishment: but the just, into life everlasting.” (Matthew 25: 41-43, 46)
Being Born Again is about Being Baptized
Born-again zealots often quote Christ’s words to Nicodemus concerning spiritual rebirth, thinking the Bible is on their side, but their idea of being born again has no scriptural basis. Being born again refers strictly to Catholic Baptism whereby one is cleansed from the guilt of Original Sin. As Christ himself said, “Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.” (John 3:5) Note that the application of water is indispensable. There is no spiritual rebirth without the application of water.
Salvation Granted Only After Death
Being born again (baptized) simply places one on the path to salvation, but to be saved we must “work out our salvation with fear and trembling” (Philip. 2:12) and “persevere to the end.” (Matt. 24:13) There is no “being saved” in this life. Salvation is granted after death.
While the Apostles sometimes refer to our “being saved,” they mean it in the sense of being rescued and brought onboard onto Peter’s Barque, since anyone can fall from grace and be like the dog that “returns to its vomit.” (2 Peter 2:22) St. Paul makes it clear to the Ephesians:
"Know you this and understand, that no fornicator, or unclean, or covetous person (which is a serving of idols), hath inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let no man deceive you with vain words. For because of these things cometh the anger of God upon the children of unbelief. Be ye not therefore partakers with them. (Ephesians 5:5,6)
Note that the Apostle is speaking to the Ephesians who were baptized (reborn). He warns them not to be deceived, that anyone without exception who offends mortally will not be saved.
He likewise exhorted the Galatians to “Stand fast, and be not held again under the yoke of bondage.” (5:1) He says they are “fallen from grace” and “made void of Christ” who return to circumcism and who fall to the works of the flesh (4,5). He identifies the works of the flesh as “fornication, uncleanness, immodesty, luxury… sects, envies, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like” and goes on to say ”that they who do such things shall not obtain the kingdom of God.” (Galatians 5:19-21)
Again, the Apostle was speaking to those who were reborn, warning that they will lose their salvation if they fall from grace.
No Forgiveness Without Forgiving
Still again, Jesus says in the Gospel, “If you will not forgive men, neither will your Father forgive you your offences.” (Mt. 6:15) What this means is that if one doesn’t repent of this sin but dies holding a grudge, he will not be forgiven but will be banished from the Kingdom, whether he is reborn or not.
But the born-agains will retort by saying, “Oh no, it doesn’t apply to me because I’m already saved,” but Christ didn’t say that. Under the pretext of honoring scripture, they use the scriptures to advance their contempt of scripture and its Author.
Misunderstanding about the Works of the Law
The born-again group has their pet verses of scripture marked out thinking falsely that they support their ideology, but to them Christ says: “Search the scriptures, for you think in them to have life everlasting; and the same are they that give testimony of me.” (John 5:39) One of their favorite verses is from Romans.
“By the works of the law no flesh shall be justified before him… For we account a man to be justified by faith, without the works of the law.” (Romans 3: 20, 28)
When St. Paul repeatedly tells us that we are not justified by the works of the law, he’s not speaking of good works, which Christ commanded, but is speaking of the ceremonial works of the old Jewish Law where they did circumcism and offered animals in sacrifice. Christ came to do away with all that. The Apostle is simply saying that we’re not justified by being Jew but are justified by being Christian.
One True Church
The Catholic Church is the One Institution of Faith established by Christ, outside of which there is no salvation. The Church is the unwritten word of God while the Bible is the written word, but both are of equal authority and must be accepted by the faithful. St. Paul himself says:
“Therefore, brethren, stand fast; and hold the traditions which you have learned, whether by word, or by our epistle.” (2 Thess. 2:14) That is, whether by our spoken word or by our written word.
Revelation then is twofold, i.e., the Church and the Bible. Faith consists of embracing all that Christ left us yet the protestant-born again sects reject the unwritten word as well as seven canonical books of the Bible, i.e., the six deuterocanonical books and the Epistle of James.
Where is their love of the Bible? Luther’s ‘Bible only’ idea (sola scriptura) was just an excuse to get away from Christ. He was all about protesting Christian morals and then using the Bible to excuse this, which is what the born-agains do. They twist and use scripture to justify their rebellion, but anyone of spiritual sense should understand that looking for excuses for sinning in the Bible is not the way to Heaven.
How is it that they miss this?
Now isn't that convenient???
Christ came to do away with all that. The Apostle is simply saying that we’re not justified by being Jew but are justified by being Christian.
If salvation is based on "merit," then the chrstian religion isn't necessary. There was already a religion, indisputably from G-d Himself, that had "works" and rituals and ceremonies and laws. The very idea that "faith vs. works" boils down to the old (Biblical) religion vs. the new (post-Biblical) religion is the height of hypocrisy. This argument is essentially Protestant and chrstianity brought Protestantism on itself by fulminating against G-d given laws while insisting on man-made laws.
Just desserts.
There is good reason this discussion continues after centuries of debate referring to the same source. Reformers claim that Jesus Paid it All, and it’s insulting to Him to say otherwise. The Eastern and Roman traditions claim we need to stay in the orthodox/apostolic communion and work it out with fear and trembling. Both are supported in the Book, too.
Correct. One must keep believing, must hold fast to one's faith in Christ's finished work on the cross.
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The Catholic Church is the One Institution of Faith established by Christ, outside of which there is no salvation. The Church is the unwritten word of God while the Bible is the written word, but both are of equal authority and must be accepted by the faithful. St. Paul himself says:
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Paul says:
Christ, our Passover Lamb.
Unleavened Bread of Sincerity and Truth
First Fruits of those fallen asleep
The Catholic Church has substituted those with three days with three of their own,in contrast to Paul’s first importance of the gospel, leading to a False Christ and a False Gospel
The writer should worry about the False Security in False religion with a Fase Christ and False Gospel.
And hope that’s not a salvation issue..
——>Once saved, always saved isn’t.
Not according to many bible “experts” on this site. Once and forever saved at the microsecond of grace, locked in, and absolutely NOTHING can ever keep you out of heaven.
I see that you appear to have that false security, roving.
This doesn’t need a long answer. Just read John, Romans and Galatians very slowly.
On this we agree. Belive means to belive with Heart.
Let me get this straight. In order to be saved I have to belong to a Church run by a pervert-loving communist who has been shielding child molesters from prosecution?
While I sympathize with the premise of the article, it is riddled with errors.
“Nowhere in the Gospel does Christ prescribe such a thing, nor is the term ‘personal savior’ found anywhere in the Bible.”
Paul, who told us to follow his example, made it personal:
Galatians 2:20 NKJV
I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.
Yes, Jesus died for the whole world, but it is importasnt to realize that He “died for me”. That’s personal.
I agree with the article that the corrupted modern message of salvation tolerates sin and presumes upon the mercy of God. Some of the scriptures cited here are exactly the reason that many “Christians” are headed toward Hell rather than Heaven.
The remedy proposed here uses the strawman of Luther. The Reformation included many leaders who did not fall into the errors which Luther is accused of making. The Reformation produced good works, works of faith, and fruits of salvation which, as the article correctly asserts ARE REQUIRED to inherit eternal life.
However, these outcomes are the result of repentance and faith, BECAUSE God’s grace always and actively works in the believer to produce them.
100% of the time. This is because salvation is ultimately a demonstration of the sovereign power of God.
It was never a question.
So according to your misguided logic, the "whole world" is saved. So it's not that "personal", is it?
No. You only have to belong to the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church founded by Jesus Christ.
All other “churches” are false.
Awful lot of garbage spewed in a small place!
“the born-again formula is to simply accept Christ as “personal savior” to secure “being saved” without any need for works, penance, or prayer.”
REPENTANCE - as the Scriptures say - comes before being born again. Works follow being born again because, as scripture says:
“This is the covenant that I will make with them
in the days to come, says the Lord:
I will put my laws in their hearts
and write them on their minds.”
17 And then he says, “I will not remember their sins and evil deeds any longer.” - Hebrews 10
The HOLY SPIRIT will change you, from the inside out. GOD promises.
“Doing penance” is trying to earn the gift of salvation, which comes from what Jesus said, “The right time has come and the Kingdom of God is near! Turn away from your sins and believe the Good News!” - Mark 1
But you go on trying to earn your way, and pushing lies that we MAKE God accept us by our good deeds.
Where do you come up with such nonsense?
What? The Protestants don't believe in repentance. Once saved, always saved. Jesus died for their sins and they're home free.
Do Baptists and Lutherans are fake Christians?
So once Mr Rogers is born-again, he has no further need of repantence for his future sins?
Is that correct?
Or is that once Mr Rogers is born-again, he is incapable of ever sinning again?
Which is it, Mr Rogers?
He probably doesn’t know the definition of “eternal”.
Go back to post #33 and read it slowly this time.
The answer is there.
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