Questions for Dispensationalists, Part 3 of 4

Prophecy Questions Blog ^ | February 1, 2024 | Charles Meek

[ealgeone]

CHARLES S. MEEK: 10, 20, AND PRETERISM STILL FALLS SHORT.

Part 1 Stephen Whitsett M.Div. Th.M. PhD (abd)

ABSTRACT: Charles Meeks like many other Full Preterist writers / teachers of Full Preterism lack in a foundation of consistent, coherent, or unified theology that has been acquired over years of scholarly driven research and development. They often have little theological background and even less historical knowledge of Christianity and even take pride in telling people they just get their belief from the Bible alone, as if they are some Andreas Karlstadt or Thomas Munzer and less a Luther.

Attempts made by FP to systemize their theology has yet been accomplished in over 70 years of its existence. But then it never can be. Meeks attempt to provide 10 clues as to how to understand the Heaven and Earth in the NT and writes 20 observation as to why Revelation was written pre-AD 70. This paper examines his arguments to demonstrate the fundamental issues that undermine the FP paradigm credibility of not only the written works but of the authors / teachers of FP.

There are two principles that drive the FP movement born from out of the roots of Max King and his disciples from the churches of Christ. 2 The fist being a rejection of the church’s teaching for the last 2000 years from either the Catholic or Protestant perspective. 3 The second is based on the idea of the first, each person must study the bible for themselves to arrive at the truth and not depend on the interpretations of others, including other FP. The end result is a movement plagued with in-house fighting and disagreements with over 17 different “official” forms of FP starting with the split of IBV or CBV. 4

Each vying for attention and notoriety with their YOU Tube Channels and blogs that are designed to spread their messages along with a plethora of books and websites

There is no official credited University that teaches FP as a viable option of Eschatology or recognized degrees offered in FP theology. FP does not have one viable Greek or Hebrew scholar who supports their position of interpretations or any type of PhD backing. It remains on the backs of the unlearned.

Having years of bible study under your belt does not equal “qualified,” if one never learned the proper rules of hermeneutics or exegesis, the system of study remains flawed form its inception. Any number of posts will reveal this failure when compared to the work of scholars.

https://www.academia.edu/82224419/CHARLES_meek_10_heaven_and_earth

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Chuck....bro.....give it up.

[ealgeone]

I find it most curious that Christians seem to find hope in the destruction of the planet, thus eliminating unsaved friends and future progeny from knowing Jesus—and a shiny new earth in which even carnivorous animals take up vegetarianism.

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Chuck....did you really say this????

Out of curiosity....do you believe in annihilationism?

Or do you adhere to universalism?

[aMorePerfectUnion]

+1

[aMorePerfectUnion]

And yet people like Meek can provide no good answers…

[ealgeone]

I'd think IF I were chuck, I'd be able to defend my positions a tad quicker than he id currently doing...or not doing.

He's been asked simple questions to which he's provided no viable answers...and we know why.

[ealgeone]

These too tough for you??

[aMorePerfectUnion]

I noticed he cannot answer important questions about his theological theories.

[ealgeone]

>>Each vying for attention and notoriety with their YOU Tube Channels and blogs that are designed to spread their messages along with a plethora of books and websites<<

But hey....he's got a website/blog and a self published book!!

But no formal theological training.

[Tell It Right]

Look at how that same Greek word is used in Luke 16:8 (same writer).

And the lord commended the unjust steward, because he had done wisely: for the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light.

There, obviously “generation” meant the worldly people instead of righteous people. It wasn’t talking about different age groups like we usually think of for “generation“.

[lurk]

Why do you use Yeshua in quoting Acts 1:11? The Gk word for Jesus in that verse is Iesous.

[Olog-hai]

DIDN’T JESUS SPECIFICALLY SAY THE TRIBULATION WOULD HAPPEN IN HIS GENERATION … ??

No. He did not. Never used any reference to “his” generation, whatever that could possibly mean.

And get it right: The phrase is “great tribulation, such as hath not been from the beginning of the world until now, neither shall be”, with the next verse explicitly stating “And unless those days had been shortened, no flesh should be saved” . . . no war took place in 70 AD that ever came close to endangering the existence of “all flesh” (the phrase means what it says; it is not mistranslated), nor have the many subsequent wars, not even the unprecedentedly bad world wars of the last century. Nor has seismic activity risen to the level described in Matthew 24:7.

[circlecity]

“ Genea is generation. Genoa is race—different word. Genea is in the text.”

Not according to my Greek lexicon. Genea can have either meaning.

[circlecity]

In Luke 23.36 “genea” clearly refers to the Jewish people. It is referring to both the past and future Jews who kill the prophets.

[circlecity]

I meant Matthew 23.36. Typo

[SkyDancer]

Because. Okay?! Yeshua is a Hebrew name that means "to deliver, save, or rescue" and is also the name of Jesus in Aramaic. Christians when they translated the Bible from Koine Greek came up with the word Jesus. As a Jew, He is called Yashua whenever we speak of Him.

Your Iesous comes out as Jesus in current translations.