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To: Cronos

This view does not explain the following (not all inclusive):

Daniel’s 70th week
The 144,000
The two witnesses...
Their death at the hand of the beast
Lying out for all in the world to see
Their resurrection and subsequent earthquake
The mark of the beast
The false prophet
All the judgments (e.g. when did all the green grass burn up? when did all living things in the sea die?)

Could there be an interpretation that may be a partial or dual interpretation where some things took place in the past but a greater and complete fulfillment is in the future?

Regardless, the key event in history is the cross of Christ and the things associated - His life, His sacrifice, His blood, His death, His burial, His resurrection, His return - according to the scriptures. There is no other name by which we must be saved than that of Jesus.


6 posted on 04/19/2024 7:50:42 AM PDT by HombreSecreto (The life of a repo man is always intense)
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To: HombreSecreto

Now, you don’t want to bring inconsistencies from his interpretation into this!


9 posted on 04/19/2024 8:02:12 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: HombreSecreto

unless Daniel is describing the end of the world while Revelation is describing the end of the Temple and ancient Israel.


11 posted on 04/19/2024 8:21:55 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: HombreSecreto

“Lying out for all in the world to see”

The New Testament writers referred to the Roman Empire generally, and the Middle East in particular, as “the world.”

Genesis says the whole world went to Egypt for food, when in actuality that would have been impossible. Transverse oceans?

Paul said they had preached the gospel unto the whole world.

The mark of the beast was a requirement by the average Roman citizen to swear loyalty to the emperor or they could not get a license to engage in business.

“All the judgments (e.g. when did all the green grass burn up? when did all living things in the sea die?)”

If you get to take that literally, than why do I not have the right to take literally what Jesus said in Rev. 1:1 —that these things will happen shortly?


16 posted on 04/19/2024 8:41:20 AM PDT by odawg
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To: HombreSecreto

Daniel’s vision is pointing to the FIRST coming of Christ. Daniel’s visions were fulfilled in 70 AD.


42 posted on 04/19/2024 9:02:23 PM PDT by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: HombreSecreto

I am very open to the notion that Revelation describes a pattern that happened in 70AD that may repeat itself at the end of time. But...

Daniel’s 70 weeks is often thought to be a period of 490 years between the defeat of Judea and the defilement of the Temple. (I just discovered that the Earthquake of Antioch, the greatest in the history of the Roman Empire, was 490 years after Paul was struck down on the road to Antioch. Antioch rivaled Rome in population in 400 AD, and after the depopulation of Rome may have been the largest city in the Western world.)

The 144,000 are said to be the martyrs, the “firstfruits” who went to Heaven immediately at their own martyrdom.

Some say the Mark of the Beast is the image of Nero, on every coin, which had to be seen and held to conduct trade.


46 posted on 04/20/2024 6:26:33 PM PDT by dangus
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