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To: roving; EEGator
Religious Jews do not like Christians. One pastor said they were pounding on his church doors, wanting to know if there were any Jews in there they were trying to convert. It’s not uncommon for them to protest churches. I stand behind them because one day they will bow down to Jesus.

You bring up an excellent point: Jews don't proselytize, at least not like evangelicals or mormons. They don't now and they didn't 1,000 or 2,000+ years ago. Jesus and his 12 Disciples also didn't proselytize. They ministered to those in Judaea and Jews/Romans/Samaritans/etc searched out Jesus and his disciples. A tenet that Jesus espoused, the road is hard but the reward is greater....... those who wish to learn had to come to Jesus.

The Jews have been beaten down and genocided for millennia, why wouldn't they be apprehensive and territorial to Paulinist christians proselytizing and (probably in their view) further eroding their culture, heritage, and religion? The only time anyone was "authorized" to proselytize on behalf of Jesus' teachings was after he died and the Jesus Community was becoming fractured, the disciples got sick and tired of Paul and told him to go do whatever he wanted but leave them alone.

So I don't begrudge any Jew getting mad that Paulinist christians would be trying to erase someone's judaism (who is an ethnic or religious jew).

Jesus was a Zionist Jew. He believed the end of things was near during his time and his whole mission was Israel-centric and Jew-centric, he believed that Jerusalem and Israel would be the capital of heaven on earth.

It's why all Christianities and their clergy and followers, quote Paul 387,000 times over quoting Jesus. Paul's dialectical esoteric nonsense is easier to digest than Jesus' very specific Israel-centric and Jewish-centric message and mission.
44 posted on 04/12/2024 7:10:15 PM PDT by brent13a
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To: brent13a
Jesus was a Zionist Jew. He believed the end of things was near during his time ...

Uh ... whut?

This sounds like a brand of Christianity that has gone off the rails.

Correction -- this sounds like a brand of Christianity that was never on the rails to begin with.

46 posted on 04/12/2024 7:22:11 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: brent13a

You seem to have a problem with Paul. That is identical to having a problem with Jesus.


50 posted on 04/12/2024 7:29:03 PM PDT by Tom in SFCA
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To: brent13a

YESHUA: GO INTO ALL THE WORLD AND PREACH THE GOSPEL TO ALL CREATION, AND MAKE DISCIPLES OF ALL MEN, BEFINING IN JERUSALEM. The best way to bless Israel is with YESHUA.


51 posted on 04/12/2024 7:29:46 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: brent13a

YESHUA is the risen and everything GOD.


52 posted on 04/12/2024 7:31:44 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: brent13a; Alberta's Child
Jesus was a Zionist Jew. He believed the end of things was near during his time and his whole mission was Israel-centric and Jew-centric, he believed that Jerusalem and Israel would be the capital of heaven on earth.

The same Jesus who said His kingdom was not of this world?

The whole parable of the marriage feast from Matthew 22 utterly rebukes your notion that Jesus was a Zionist in the modern sense, for the Jews who rejected Him would be cast off.

But I wonder: you speak of Jesus believing that the end times were near, as though His knowledge were imperfect (since the end times have not yet occurred). Do you believe Jesus to be the Son of God?

55 posted on 04/12/2024 7:41:03 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: brent13a

You come across as very Christophobic. The violence and persecution committed by Israeli Jews against Israeli Christians is damnable and satanic.

So what if Jews have been persecuted? Armenians, Belarusians and Russians have suffered mightily. In case you didn’t know, Armenians have suffered GENOCIDE by the Turks. In fact, Turkey is using their client state Azerbaijan to continue continue with their continuing slaughter of Christian Armenians. Yet, Israel sides with the murderous Azeris and even denies the existence of the Armenian Genocide. Shameful.

FYI, Armenia was the First Nation to adopt Christianity.

For the record, I don’t support Hamas. The majority of Palestinians are trouble and I have no problem with Israel attempting to destroy Hamas. Hamas started this current mess.

I just get angry when an ignorant person ( not referring to you) accuses someone of being a Nazi if the aforementioned person dares to criticize Israel.

One more thing: Can someone please enlighten me as to the motivation of Israel’s attack of the USS Liberty? That event took place before my time and we didn’t really learn about it in school. I just wanted an unbiased explanation of the incident.


93 posted on 05/21/2024 12:31:27 PM PDT by CrimsonTidegirl (Do your American duty: Burn a Ukrainian flag today!)
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