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To: ealgeone

>>And no one recorded this....no one.<<

There was an eyewitnessed event in 66 AD recorded by Josephus and Tacitus that could be Jesus and his angels coming in clouds:

“Not many days after the festival, on the twenty-first of the month Artemisius, there appeared a phenomenon so marvellous as to exceed credibility. What I am about to relate would, I conceive, be deemed a mere fable, had it not been related by eye-witnesses, and attended by calamities commensurate with such portents. Before sunset were seen around the whole country chariots poised in the air, and armed battalions speeding through the clouds and investing the cities.” [Robert Traill, “The Jewish War of Flavius Josephus Vol II.” Houlston and Stoneman, 1851, Book VI.5.3, p.197]

“XIII. Prodigies had indeed occurred, but to avert them either by victims or by vows is held unlawful by a people which, though prone to superstition, is opposed to all propitiatory rites. Contending hosts were seen meeting in the skies, arms flashed, and suddenly the temple was illumined with fire from the clouds.” [Histories of Tacitus, in Clifford H. Moore, “Tacitus Vol II - Histories IV-V, Annals I-III.” William Heinemann LTD, 1962, Book V.13, Mat 24:30, p.197]

The timing is consistent with the prophecy that states Christians would go through the great tribulation, but escape the wrath (i.e., they would suffer persecution, but would be raptured before the Jewish rebellion that also began in 66 AD.)

It is important to note that Revelation 1:7 can be exegeted in this manner:

“Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all [tribes of the land] shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.” — Rev 1:7

Mr. Kalamata


65 posted on 04/10/2024 7:37:44 PM PDT by Kalamata (President Trump, the ONLY candidate who is NOT OWNED by the global oligarchs.)
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To: Kalamata

Key word....”could”....not confirmation.


68 posted on 04/10/2024 7:42:28 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Kalamata
“Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all [tribes of the land] shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.” — Rev 1:7

So when, exactly, did Jesus come back in the clouds and everyone saw Him and nobody recorded it?

Revelation was thought to be penned about 81–96 AD. How does that fit with the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD?

74 posted on 04/10/2024 7:47:48 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: Kalamata; grumpa

And if Jesus has already come back, what did He do when He was here? n And why can’t we tell?

Why did He leave again? And is He coming back again for a THIRD time? And where is that prophesied?

And what do you all see has the future of mankind? We keep going like this until we destroy ourselves?


76 posted on 04/10/2024 7:49:59 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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