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To: Peter ODonnell

Peter, the preterist view i an optimistic view. We do not have to fear a coming great tribulation and destruction of the planet, etc. We gloriously share the gospel, living under Christ the King.

10 CLUES TO UNDERSTANDING THE NEW HEAVEN AND NEW EARTH

The “new heaven and new earth” of the Bible is popularly thought by Christians to be a future world of perfect utopia. In the new heaven and new earth there will LITERALLY be “no more tears, pain, or death.” But watch out on this! We are given clues in the Bible that the popular view may be flawed.

Thesis: Some uses of the nouns “earth” and “heaven” refer to realities in the cosmos (Genesis 1:1; etc.). However, the “New Heaven and New Earth” is a Hebraic metaphor for the New Covenant in Christ. It is not the same thing as heaven itself. The primary texts about this are Isaiah 65/66, Matthew 5:17-18; 2 Peter 3, and Revelation 21. Let’s take a look.

CLUE #1: If the new earth is to be understood literally, we would logically have to understand the new heaven literally also. But, if God lives in heaven, why do we need a new heaven? Hmmm.

CLUE #2: In Matthew 5:17-18, Jesus ties the passing of heaven and earth with the passing of the Law. So, if the Law has already passed away and we are now under Grace, we must be in the new heaven and new earth now!

CLUE #3: In Matthew 24:34-35, Jesus puts the passing away of heaven and earth in his generation, coincident with the destruction of the temple (Matthew 24:2).

CLUE #4: In Isaiah 65/66, we see that God’s enemies are destroyed, but regular human history continues. Houses and vineyards will be built in the new heaven and new earth. We also see that children are born in the new heaven and new earth. There is SIN in the new heaven and new earth. And, indeed, people still DIE in the new heaven and new earth (Isaiah 65:20; 66:24)! So, the new heaven and new earth is not the eternal state—heaven itself, nor can it be a utopian millennium.

CLUE #5: In Isaiah 66:19f, we also see that regular human history continues after the “final judgment.” The survivors of Armageddon evangelize those who never heard of God. Get that? There are people on earth who never heard of God in the new heaven and new earth! This is not Utopia-ville.

Continue here for all TEN CLUES:
https://prophecyquestions.com/10-clues-to-understanding-the-new-heaven-and-new-earth


120 posted on 04/11/2024 4:35:37 AM PDT by grumpa
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To: grumpa; Peter ODonnell
No Charles…post ALL of your clues for the world to see right here.

Peter, this charlatan is suggesting there will be a “second, Second Coming”. LOL!!

I’d question everything this charlatan says.

123 posted on 04/11/2024 5:40:37 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: grumpa

>>CLUE #2: In Matthew 5:17-18, Jesus ties the passing of heaven and earth with the passing of the Law. So, if the Law has already passed away and we are now under Grace, we must be in the new heaven and new earth now!<<

John gave us a clue: “no more sea”

“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.” — Rev 21:1 KJV

The physical temple was divided into three parts which the Hebrews nicknamed: 1) the heaven (the Holy of Holies); 2) the earth (the Inner Court); and 3) the sea (the Outer Court). Gentiles were not allowed into the inner court. The new, spiritual temple has no outer court — no sea — so it is open to all who keep His commandments.

Dan


128 posted on 04/11/2024 7:59:18 AM PDT by Kalamata (President Trump, the ONLY candidate who is NOT OWNED by the global oligarchs.)
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