[Oakleaf]

Other references on this topic. “A Doctor At Calvary: The Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ as Described by a Surgeon” Pierre Barbet, M.D. This is probably the single best book. I have given it to several priests over the years as a gift for Lent. “The Crucifixion ol Jesus, Completely Revised and Expanded, A Forensic Inquiry” by Frederick T. Zugibe. If you get the two-disc, Definitive Edition of the “Passion of The Christ” he is one of the people interviewed in the section on crucifixition.

DVD “How Jesus Died: The Final 18 Hours” Trinity Pictures Ltd. This includes sections with interviews with Frederick Zugibe and with Dr. John Bonica, one of the founding fathers of the modern study and understanding of pain and its treatment.

DVD “Crucifixtion” The History Channel.

Original JAMA at https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/404276

[No name given]

And He rose from the dead three days later. Hallelujah!!!!

[DoodleBob]

From a thread yesterday, on The Shroud of Turin. HT Skydancer-“ Why I believe in the authenticity of the Shroud:”

[Hebrews 11:6]

Thanks for this.

Here is another informed view: A physician and engineer's biomedical engineering examination of Jesus' crucifixion.

[waterhill]

It was on a Wednesday. Prove me wrong.

[Carriage Hill]

He is risen !

[piytar]

Christ died because He allowed it. Christ was and is God incarnate. Literally immortal. If He wanted, the nails and spear would have simply bounced off.

Christ could have called down an army of angels, just one of which wiped out all the first born in Egypt. We are talking power at a level humans cannot begin to comprehend.

He sacrificed Himself for our sins. We are not worthy of that sacrifice, but we can but try to accept and live up to it.

Just my view.

[daniel1212]

As wicked as the illegal trial, false charges, humiliation, flogging was, and moreover the exhaustion and horrific suffering of the crucifixion, that itself was not the full "cup" that was so horrendous that the Lord prayed rather rhetorically, "if it be possible, let this cup pass from Me, nonetheless, Thy will be done (which affirmed to us that there was not other way).

I believe it was being made sin for us (1 Co. 5:21; 1 Pt. 2:24; 3:18) as it was, not only somehow becoming the exactly opposite of what He was, as if drinking the sewer of mankind's iniquity, but above all, some-how being cut off from His Father, as an enemy in utter despairing darkness, forsaken as if for eternity as far as experiencing it during His time on the cross, until He would cry, "It is FINISHED," (Jm. 19:30) as the prophesied scapegoat and sacrifice, having provided the perfect atonement for mankind, efficacious for all who will receive Him as the risen Lord and Savior, thanks be to God.

The redeemed are those who have been spiritually born of the Spirit (Jn. 3:2-7) by effectual, penitent, heart-purifying, regenerating faith in the Divine Son of God sent be the Father to be the Savior of the world, (1 Jn. 4:14) who saves sinners by His sinless shed blood, on His account.

And which faith is imputed for righteousness, (Romans 4:5) and which is shown in baptism and following the Lord, (Acts 2:38-47; Jn. 10:27, 28) whom they shall go to be with or His return (Phil 1:23; 2Cor. 5:8 [“we”]; Heb. 12:22, 23; 1Cor. 15:51ff'; 1Thess. 4:17) In contrast to those who were never born of the Spirit or who terminally fall away. (Gal. 5:1-4; Heb. 3:12; Heb. 10:25-39) Glory and thanks be to God.