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To: ebb tide

I am not Catholic, not very religious but Francis doesn’t seem like an asset.


4 posted on 03/12/2024 8:23:06 AM PDT by sasquatch (Do NOT forget Ashli Babbit! c/o piytar)
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To: sasquatch
I am not Catholic, not very religious...

Neither is Bergoglio.

8 posted on 03/12/2024 8:43:23 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: sasquatch

Your assessment puts it most mildly.

The imPopestor is a cancer.


14 posted on 03/12/2024 10:22:37 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: sasquatch; .45 Long Colt; Apple Pan Dowdy; BDParrish; Big Red Badger; BlueDragon; boatbums; ...
I am not Catholic, not very religious but Francis doesn’t seem like an asset.

But under the RC model for assurance of faith, it is written (among other things)"

'the one duty of the multitude is to allow themselves to be led, and, like a docile flock, to follow the Pastors," "to suffer themselves to be guided and led in all things that touch upon faith or morals by the Holy Church of God through its Supreme Pastor the Roman Pontiff," "of submitting with docility to their judgment," with "no discussions regarding what he orders or demands, or up to what point obedience must go, and in what things he is to be obeyed... not only in person, but with letters and other public documents ;" and 'not limit the field in which he might and must exercise his authority," for "obedience must not limit itself to matters which touch the faith: its sphere is much more vast: it extends to all matters which the episcopal power embraces," and not set up "some kind of opposition between one Pontiff and another. Those who, faced with two differing directives, reject the present one to hold to the past, are not giving proof of obedience to the authority which has the right and duty to guide them," "Nor must it be thought that what is expounded in Encyclical Letters does not of itself demand consent." (Sources http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3578348/posts?page=14#14)
And in the judgment of the Cardinals:

Francis quickly emerged as perfect conclave candidate By Barry Moody March 14, 20133:36 PM EDTUpdated 11 years ago

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - The cardinals who elect the pope are sworn to secrecy about their deliberations, but details began to filter out on Thursday about how rank outsider Jorge Bergoglio quickly emerged as a frontrunner to replace Pope Benedict. Bergoglio was a runner-up to the then Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger at the 2005 conclave that made Ratzinger pope. But he was not even mentioned in many media long lists of the likely papal candidates or "papabili" this time around.
It was an unusually short conclave with an unexpected finish. When Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergolio from Argentina was declared the new pope on Wednesday evening, the announcement was greeted with astonishment from the crowds gathered in St. Peter’s Square.... “The world has about 18,000 Jesuits, and they are the ones who determine the future of the church,” explained Mounier. "They are used to thinking deeper than the others. They work closely with the poor, but they are intellectuals who are in tune with the changes in society.” - https://www.france24.com/en/20130314-pope-francis-first-jesuit-church-history-latin-american-poverty

Which changes included:

Meet the Newest Anti-Fracking Activist: Pope Francis

https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/11/13/meet-the-newest-anti-fracking-activist-pope-francis/

Along with alarming statements attributed to him (like “The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! ‘Father, the atheists?’ Even the atheists " "Proselytism is solemn nonsense...") besides his social justice, climate alarming, prolix papal encyclical Laudato Si.

His (among cadres of other Catholics) liberal declension has left Traditional Catholics in substantial degrees of dissent. Of course, the NT church itself began in particular dissent from the historical magisterium. As did the Reformation. But the standard for conformity must be that of the only wholly God-inspired, substantive, authoritative record of what the NT church believed (which is Scripture, in particular Acts through Revelation, which best shows how the NT church understood the gospels). In which distinctive Catholic teachings (and some held within Prostentantism) are not manifest.

15 posted on 03/12/2024 10:27:23 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: sasquatch

He’s a great asset for the Globalists. His job is to destroy the Church and it appears he is good at his job.


26 posted on 03/12/2024 6:03:44 PM PDT by yuleeyahoo (“Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!” - the deep-state)
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To: sasquatch
I am not Catholic, not very religious but Francis doesn’t seem like an asset.

I am Catholic, and Bergoglio IS very much an asshat.

39 posted on 03/15/2024 4:02:40 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Tonight on The Bickersons... )
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