Posted on 02/17/2024 9:53:07 AM PST by Morgana
80-year-old Joyce Meyer is not slowing down in her mission to teach all the false doctrines, recently insisting to her millions of followers that they should never never guilty for sinning.
Meyers is long thought to be one of the ‘Big three’ heretics, along with Kenneth Copeland and Benny Hinn. Popular with women and effeminate men, the famed multi-millionaire televangelist’s ministry brings in over $100 million yearly and is known for her word-faith teachings. We tagged her recently after it was revealed she was paid by Hillsong $150,000 for one sermon, and has a long history of collecting sky-high honorariums.
She has a bizarre view of the atonement where Jesus paid for our sins in hell, believes that Jesus stopped being the Son of God for a time, that Jesus had to be born-again, that Jesus went to hell in our place and was tormented, that if you don’t believe Jesus went to hell you cannot be saved, and that the scripture teaches that we are little gods. This is all while claiming that she routinely receives revelation from God and the angels, one of which is likely this teaching
Speaking last December at Christ Fellowship Church, Meyers confuses guilt and condemnation, ascribing the role of the Holy Spirit to Satan by teaching:
Let me tell you something else that you never have to do again: after you sin you never have to feel guilty. Yep, you reacted about like the second service did. Can you find one place in the Bible where it tells you to feel guilty? Satan is the Accuser of the Brethren and even after you sin and you’ve repented and you’ve been forgiven, he’ll come back around and try to accuse you.
And it took me a long time, a long time to get over guilt. It was like this vague presence that was with me all the time. Not like right in my face, but this vague feeling something’s wrong with me. Does anybody in here have any idea what I’m feeling, what I’m talking about?
And when I would feel guilty I would say out loud “I feel guilty but I’m not guilty because the word of God says I’m forgiven and the sin and the guilt are removed.” And then I’d still feel guilty and I’d say “I feel guilty but I’m not guilty because the word of God says that my sins have been forgiven and all the guilt has been removed.”
I’m not guilty, I don’t care how you make me feel devil, I am not guilty, I am forgiven. And you know what? When I did it enough times I started to believe it. And see when you believe it- we have a lot of information but what we need is revelation. And I want what’s in your head today to fall down in your spirit. I want you to get it. If you’ve asked God to forgive your sins and you meant it. You are not guilty. I pronounce you not guilty.
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Guilt is the Holy Spirit’s way of telling you that you screwed up. Listen to It.
I’m not a Joyce Meyers fan but her statement is true. The key here is repented and accepted forgiveness. Satan does want to kee you wrapped up in guilt.
even after you sin and you’ve repented and you’ve been forgiven, he’ll come back around and try to accuse you.
She’s half right. All sin past present and future is forgiven when one repents.
But if we are born again we ought to be going against our sin because we fear God with a healthy fear.
“She’s half right.”
She worded it very poorly. We are guilty of the sin. Even after we are forgiven we were still guilty. The better way of saying is is after we were forgiven by Jesus we were acquitted of that sin.
I do.
Nothing new under the sun- same kind of apostates back in Paul’s day were saying the same thing- ie “Sin all you want so that God’s grace can abound”-
Paul called them out for the false preachers and liars that they were-
OK, don’t beat yourself up. Just stop it and ask forgiveness.
Hey Joyce- The ‘guilt feeling” you felt was not Satan- it was the Holy Spirit trying to get you to repent- so what you are telling us is that you have succeeded in silencing the work of the Holy Spirit in your life which convicts people of sin- You must feel so liberated /s
While we stand in righteousness before God- blameless- Redeemed- We still are accountable for each and every sin we do after salvation- sin causes problems for oneself and others- and has far reaching effects onm earth- which is why God says “Do not do these things” and why the Holy Spirit touches our consciences when we do them- We still need to “Get right with God” because current present sin separates us from a close fellowship with God- That is very clear throughout God’s word- -
All sin is unholiness and separates us from God.
We are not given permission to sin by accepting Christ.
We are required to repent of our sins, even after accepting Christ.
Well stated- and all true-
Ah do what you want, if you want to live in eternity surrounded by the Love of God, stop sinning, repent and try harder, you want to spend eternity separated from the Love of God just do what you want. Simple.
Define “guilt.”
“Guilt” and “shame” really aren’t something we Christians should be simmering in. “Conviction,” yes. But shame and guilt ... not really.
Rather than dwelling in guilt, we should focus on God’s love, grace, and forgiveness. Through prayer, we can seek His guidance, find comfort, and ask for His help to resist temptation and live a life that honors Him
I feel guilt just clicking on the link with that clown-woman’s name.
Repent.
I’ve had more than one person, some of them “preachers”, tell me that once I am saved by accepting Jesus I am going to Heaven, no matter what I do after I am saved. I could murder somebody and it wouldn’t stop me from rejoicing in the glory of paradise because, well because I was “saved”.
These are the same people who told me that the lies people told in order to save Anne Frank from the Nazis were sins — sins as bad a murder because “all sins are equally bad”.
Strange what people believe.
Amen.
It can also be called a "well formed conscience".
Absolutely correct: Listen to it.
David murdered someone and he is in heaven.
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