Posted on 01/08/2024 1:18:20 PM PST by OneVike
Dear ebbtide,
Under what circumstances, if any, would you agree (or conclude) that Jesus did not found His Church on the Apostle Peter?
If you can’t be persuaded, just be honest with us and admit it.
Likewise, I have not yet seen or thought of anything that would convince me that Jesus abdicated his role as the “chief cornerstone”. There is just too much Scripture that points to Jesus. Scripture does not contradict Scripture. So Jesus is the One Foundation.
I meant to say preposition, not pronoun. ἐπί is a preposition, not a pronoun.
No, because when you post your pope bashing threads, they pile on and bash him, too.
By accusing you of pope bashing when they themselves are clearly doing the very same thing, they would ben by default be admitted pope bashers themselves.
So, no I would not expect other Catholics to accuse you of pope bashing.
Nope.
Jesus never said *you* or *he*.
That, too.
Jesus may have been referring to Peters faith as a rock and the work of the Holy Spirit. Because Peter had rightly identified Jesus as the Messiah Son of God.
The church was built thru faith and power of the Holy Spirit.
Who’s more anti-Catholic?
Protestants of Catholics who reject their established church authority and bash the pope ever chance they get?
Maybe that’s because Bergoglio is a protestant.
Has that ever crossed your mind?
Ah, the old *Rules for thee but not for me.
Must be nice to exempt yourself from the condemnation you heap on others.
Another question.....
Do you accept Vatican 2 as legitimate?
Thx vy much. Vy helpful. On my Kindle at moment. More tomorrow.
That's an easy one:
Jorge Bergoglio, S.J.
Read what Paul wrote in Galatians ch 1.
11 I want you to know, brothers and sisters, that the gospel I preached is not of human origin.
12 I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it; rather, I received it by revelation from Jesus Christ.
13 For you have heard of my previous way of life in Judaism, how intensely I persecuted the church of God and tried to destroy it.
14 I was advancing in Judaism beyond many of my own age among my people and was extremely zealous for the traditions of my fathers.
15 But when God, who set me apart from my mother’s womb and called me by his grace, was pleased
16 to reveal his Son in me so that I might preach him among the Gentiles, my immediate response was not to consult any human being.
17 I did not go up to Jerusalem to see those who were apostles before I was, but I went into Arabia. Later I returned to Damascus.
18 Then after three years, I went up to Jerusalem to get acquainted with Cephas and stayed with him fifteen days.
19 I saw none of the other apostles—only James, the Lord’s brother.
GOD in Christ dwelling with man as human form Jesus before His death and resurrection then at The Pentecost where all full of knowledge and were given what to say by The Holy Spirit just as Peter was given his answer when Jesus asked "but who do you say I am".
The new Temple is established with Christ living within us and not in a building. Many churches have made rules for salvation so strict it approaches those added to the laws of the day by the Scribes and Pharisees back in the day.
Ah, the old *Rules for thee but not for me.
Must be nice to exempt yourself from the condemnation you heap on others.
Another question.....
Do you accept Vatican 2 as legitimate?
That’s also an easy one. Yes, or no.
Hey ebb tide,
That is one of the most giggle-inducing things I have read in this thread. Do you REALLY take yourself that seriously?
Well, I don’t know about that “evidence”.
Maybe you are thinking of Paul.
I stopped going to confession a long time ago. Figured I didn’t need an intermediary between me and God when I confessed my sins. Say ten Hail Mary’s and five Our Father’s. I can and do that on my own. My Dad, before he died, called me “a non-practicing Catholic”. Maybe Dad was right, I don’t know.
And whose official decision is that?
Did the College of Cardinals decide that?
Did they err in choosing Francis as pope?
Were they guided by the Holy Spirit in electing him?
By what authority to you feel you have the right to make that determination?
See post #84.
It reveals a lot of chutzpah, doesn’t it?
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