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To: patriot torch
Very good. Thank you for that Scriptural detailed response.

Which is why Scripture is not the supreme standard that the Lord substantiated His ministry by, and opened the minds of the disciples so, (LK. 24:17,44, 45) though unlike Catholic popes and prelates, He, as well as men such as the apostles, could speak as wholly inspired of God. Instead, Catholicism elevates herself as alone being the sure, supreme sufficient standard (sola ecclesia), which Scripture, tradition and history only authoritatively consisting of and meaning what she says, which she says teaches that she alone is the sure, supreme sufficient authoritative standard.

Proving once again why catholics are taught to distance their beliefs from Scripture, all because their doctrine is man made according to “tradition” and nothing more.

No, all, for while linked to false teaching, Catholics profess (at least) many or most of what Bible Christians affirm and contend for (versus liberals, who degrade Scripture, and cults, which effectively elevate leadership above Scripture) including the apostle's and Nicene creed (except baptism for the remission of sins, versus the faith which baptism expresses being what purifies the heart: (Acts 10:43-47; 15:7-9)

It is distinctive Catholic teachings that are not manifest in the only wholly God-inspired, substantive, authoritative record of what the NT church believed (which is Scripture, in particular Acts through Revelation, which best shows how the NT church understood the gospels)

And if Catholics actually preached and taught what Peter did in the above verses, rather than salvation thru the very act of baptism rendering them good enough (for the time being) to enter Heaven, esp. as infants, and thus never being challenged to have their day of salvation, then we could actually have some fellowship of the Spirit. (Philippians 2:1)

22 posted on 11/23/2023 8:16:38 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: daniel1212

“And if Catholics actually preached and taught what Peter did in the above verses, rather than salvation thru the very act of baptism rendering them good enough”

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So true. From an early age they are taught that the church saved them rather than the shed Blood at Calvary.

As well as being taught to place their faith in the roman catholic church rather than having to have their beliefs supported by Scripture.


24 posted on 11/23/2023 8:25:41 PM PST by patriot torch (..)
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To: daniel1212
It is distinctive Catholic teachings that are not manifest in the only wholly God-inspired, substantive, authoritative record of what the NT church believed (which is Scripture, in particular Acts through Revelation, which best shows how the NT church understood the gospels)

Thank you for not posting 12 pages of turgid prose and getting right to the point, Daniel.

You continue, however, to assume what you need to prove, namely, that the "NT church" ceased to exist at some point, should be spoken of in the past tense, and needs to be re-invented and reverse-engineered by fallible men who think the instructions (and, worse, the mandate!) for doing that are found in Scripture.

31 posted on 11/24/2023 6:20:38 AM PST by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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