Posted on 11/14/2023 4:06:15 PM PST by Texan4Life
“Separation of church and state … is a misnomer. People misunderstand it,” Johnson said on CNBC’s “Squawk Box” when asked about him praying on the House floor. “Of course, it comes from a phrase that was in a letter that Jefferson wrote is not in the Constitution.”
“And what he was explaining is they did not want the government to encroach upon the church, not that they didn’t want principles of faith to have influence on our public life. It’s exactly the opposite,” the Speaker added.
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Perfect summary.
But what about a religion that uses sharia law which is not compatible with our constitution ?
It gets sticky, but I’ll draw a line at this point.
He’s absolutely correct.
Guess it’s more like instead of “right on the button”, it’s “right on the Brian Boitano.”
When I first heard that I thought it was funny and goofy, funny things like that often stick with me.
It’s like I’ll say, “Zimbabwe” sometimes under my breath as an exclamation about something. I couldn’t believe that at a small group gathering the girl next to me was saying “Zimbabwe” under her breath. Life is funny.
Goofy and strange, I’d say. There was an announcer for figure skating years ago - Dick Button? Connected in one’s mind possibly. He may still be around but I haven’t watched the competition in years. Remember the great skaters from Ukraine? Viktor Petrenko - his performances were hard to forget.
No it was Brian Boitano, the skater fag.
As I was telling someone else, it’s more like instead of “right on the button”, it’s “right on the Brian Boitano.”
When I first heard that I thought it was funny and goofy. Funny things like that often stick with me.
It’s like I’ll say, “Zimbabwe” sometimes under my breath as an exclamation about something. I couldn’t believe that at a small group gathering the girl next to me was saying “Zimbabwe” under her breath. Life is funny.
good for him. i agree
Cassini told of a time in the WH when JFK told him he would never quote Thomas Jefferson in a presidential speech b/c Jefferson was anti-Catholic. The author of the Declaration of Independence, and a US President himself, unabashedly rejected the Trinity, Jesus’s divinity as the Son of God, miracles, the Resurrection of Christ, atonement from sin, original sin and the Virgin birth.....all core Catholic belief
Re: 12 - “State and local governments could even specify or ban religions if their constituting documents don’t prohibit it.”
Not possible. The First Amendment is fully incorporated and restricts States from doing that.
Re: 7 - “The rewrite of the First Amendment started with Justice Hugo Black in the 1947 “Everson” decision.
Black did not want state resources supporting Catholic schools.
In the 1920’s Black was involved in Alabama with the KKK.”
That may have been what AJ Black wanted, his Majority Opinion in Everson was counter to his personal beliefs, ostensibly because he was a generally a textualist.
The KKK of the 1920’s hostile to the Roman Catholic Church Roman Catholic population of the USA in general.
I don’t have the book in front of me saw it at one of those places they sell old books it was a bio of Justice Black it posed the question you raise.
Re: 50 - re: KKK, I have to find the article, but Black in later life stated that in the 20’s to have any chance to make a difference in State office in Alabama, being associated with or in the KKK was pretty much required.
I look at it as he joined to get into local / State office and then dropped them. Later in life he was a reviled figure in Alabama, especially for Brown and other school integration cases.
He may have been a liberal justice, but he was for total Incorporation of 1st - 8th Amendments, and was against substantive due process and unenumerated rights. He blew a gasket in his dissent in Griswold v. Connecticut and its “penumbras and emanations”.
I forgot to note that Black believed that the Privileges or Immunities Clause of the 14th Amendment was the preferred way for Incorporation and not the Due Process Clause.
So everything Thomas Jefferson wrote is now binding constitutional law? Does that include his view that sodomy should be a capital crime?
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