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To: Roman_War_Criminal; StrictConstructionist

——>Scripture clearly lays out the case for The Pre-Tribulation Rapture. It’s not some phony doctrine that Darby made up either since Jesus, Peter, John, and Paul all wrote about it long before.

Francisco Ribera (Jesuit)
Cardinal Robert Bellarmine (Jesuit)
Michael Walpole (Jesuit)
Manuel De Lacunza (Jesuit)
Edward Irving
Margaret McDonald (ecstatic utterances)
Samuel Roffey Maitland
James H. Todd
John Henry Newman
John Nelson Darby
Cyrus Ingerson Scofield
etc...

Not in scripture. It started as FUTURISM by the Jesuits, as part of the counter reformation. Manual De Lacunza, the last in the Jesuit line, wrote a book on it, which Edward Irving discovered in a library, translated into English, and preached about it in his Church, where MARGARET McDONALD attended. John Darby made multiple trips to Edward’s church, tweaked his own version, then made at least 6 trips to America, preaching to everyone who would listen. Scofield picked up on it, put it in his bible, and now it’s considered gospel. It is a FABRICATION by the Papacy, pure and simple. Literally every Protestant Reformer, and minister, even up to and beyond Henry Grattan Guinness, preached that the Papacy was the Antichrist power, because it is, clearly outlined in scripture. John Knox’s first sermon in Scottland, after reading Daniel 7 for the first time and studying it, was on the Papacy as the Antichrist. John Gill CLEARLY makes the case for the Papacy as the Antichrist Power. None of them had heard anything about the Pre-Tribulation Rapture nonsense. the “CHURCH” is a CONTINUATION of literal Israel (now Spiritual Israel). The first born, the nation of Israel, was stripped of it’s birthright after it denied the Messiah and failed to produce fruit. Christ makes that very clear. Dispensationalism is a lie. It’s all a lie, concocted by the Jesuits, to counter the Reformers calling them the Antichrist power. (the Papacy also came up with Preterism, covering all bases to those calling them out as the Antichrist/Little Horn power)

From Biblical Scholar, Samuel Prideaux Tregelles. March 17, 1864.

“I am not aware that there was any definite teaching that there would be a SECRET RAPTURE of the Church at a secret coming, until this was given forth as an utterance in Mr. Irving’s Church, from what was there received as being the voice of the Spirit. But whether anyone ever asserted such a thing or not, it was from that supposed revelation that the modern doctrine and the modern phraseology respecting it arose. It came not from Holy Scripture, but from that which falsely pretended to be the Spirit of God, while not owning the true doctrine of our Lord’s incarnation in the same flesh and blood as His brethren, but without taint of sin.

The Hope of Christ’s Second Coming: How is it Taught in Scripture? And Why? Samuel Prideaux Tregelles. March 17, 1864.

****Tregelles was an EYEWITNESS to the event, when Margaret MacDonald made those utterances, and first time EVER hearing about the PTR theory****
§ VIII. (p.23.)

“But there is a very different theory of the coming of the Lord as the hope of His Church, which many teach, and which many more receive, as though it were unquestioned truth.”

“It is said that there shall be a SECRET coming of the Lord Jesus Christ; that at this SECRET coming His believing people who are in their graves shall be raised, and the living changed, and that a secret rapture of the Church shall then take place; that this SECRET coming and SECRET rapture are our hope, and not the manifested appearing of Christ in the clouds of heaven.”

“It is said that after this SECRET removal of the Church, the full manifestation of human evil, for some years at least, will take place, during which time shall be the display of the power of Antichrist,—the persecutions foretold in the Revelation, the extreme trials of Israel, the unequaled tribulation,—and that the end of this will be the manifestation of Christ visibly coming with His Church in the cloud of glory.”

“This is the doctrine of the SECRET coming of Christ, which many now preach as if it were the acknowledged truth of God, instead of its being (as is really the case) that which at every point would require proof from Scripture.”

“But not only is this doctrine of the coming of Christ not taught in the Word of God, but if, in what has been previously said, there is any point of truth, then this whole system stands in distinct contradiction of what the Scripture reveals.”


14 posted on 11/12/2023 11:12:09 AM PST by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: Philsworld

I just ordered Tregelles book, thank you for including his quotes.


19 posted on 11/12/2023 6:49:42 PM PST by Cedar
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To: Philsworld

(ref)

22 posted on 11/12/2023 10:02:15 PM PST by Songcraft
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