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To: metmom
Who should we rather trust? Pope FRANCIS???? Just look at his track record. You want HIM interpreting Scripture for you? Or anything else for that matter?

That depends upon a Catholics definition of such past papal teachings as,

*'the one duty of the multitude is to allow themselves to be led, and, like a docile flock, to follow the Pastors," "to suffer themselves to be guided and led in all things that touch upon faith or morals by the Holy Church of God through its Supreme Pastor the Roman Pontiff," "of submitting with docility to their judgment," with "no discussions regarding what he orders or demands, or up to what point obedience must go, and in what things he is to be obeyed... not only in person, but with letters and other public documents ;" and 'not limit the field in which he might and must exercise his authority, " for "obedience must not limit itself to matters which touch the faith: its sphere is much more vast: it extends to all matters which the episcopal power embraces," and not set up "some kind of opposition between one Pontiff and another. Those who, faced with two differing directives, reject the present one to hold to the past, are not giving proof of obedience to the authority which has the right and duty to guide them," "Nor must it be thought that what is expounded in Encyclical Letters does not of itself demand consent." (Sources http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3578348/posts?page=14#14)

Can. 831 §1. Except for a just and reasonable cause, the Christian faithful are not to write anything for newspapers, magazines, or periodicals which are accustomed to attack openly the Catholic religion or good morals; clerics and members of religious institutes, however, are to do so only with the permission of the local ordinary.

Can. 827§4. Books or other writings dealing with questions of religion or morals cannot be exhibited, sold, or distributed in churches or oratories unless they have been published with the permission of competent ecclesiastical authority or approved by it subsequently.
But since TradCaths determine the validity of the authority of leadership based upon their judgment of what past valid teaching is and means, as well as "competent ecclesiastical authority" and "a just and reasonable cause," then they are the little popes, even though they often are right as to what past (even if unscriptural) RC teaching is.

The Jews there did not have some church hierarchy to *interpret* Scripture for them. They read it themselves to see if what Paul and Silas were saying was true, and THEN they believed.

But the Jews did have some church hierarchy to *interpret* Scripture for them. Whose judgment, if consistent with the classic Catholic model for assurance of Truth, it what 1st century souls should have wholly submitted to.

159 posted on 11/09/2023 12:46:35 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: daniel1212

The Berean Jews did not. There was no church in their city yet and they did not yet believe so there was no *church* authority to interpret for them.

Scripture is clear that those JEWS searched Scripture carefully themselves to see if those things were so.


164 posted on 11/09/2023 2:16:05 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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