I do. He said the flesh profits nothing,
that it’s the Spirit who gives life and the words He spoke were spirit and truth. Really ?
Christ is saying YOUR sinful flesh- MY sinful flesh - profit NOTHING.
Our Worldly pursuits profit nothing
HIS FLESH, which was Sacrificed for us, is everything Isn't it?
Why do you persist in this verse pretend game?
Either Jesus contradicts himself in God-Breathed inerrant scripture-
OR
He SAYS what he means 4-5 times! in a row! (Emphasis Mine):
53 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat
THE FLESH OF THE SON OF MAN and drink his blood,
you have no life in you.
54 WHOEVER eats MY FLESH and drinks my blood HAS ETERNAL LIFE, and I will raise them up at the last day.
55 For MY FLESH IS REAL FOOD and my blood is real drink.
56 WHOEVER EATS MY FLESH and drinks my blood REMAINS IN ME,
and I IN THEM.
57 Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father,
SO THE ONE WHO FEEDS ON ME WILL LIVE because of me.
58 THIS IS THE BREAD that came down from heaven.
He meant what HE said there, 4-5 times over.
And you wish to call this symbolic? Metaphor?
Did Jesus call himself a Door, a Gate or a Vine - 4 times in a row?
Did any disciples leave when He called himself a "Gate"?
You don't think those Disciples knew he was NOT being symbolic-
when they went away and left him?
Think.
Just exactly - or how many times do you need Christ to tell you to Eat His Flesh for Life within in Him?
6 times? 10 times? 20 times? How many would convince you?
Seems like Jesus is pretty dang adamant there,
trying to get you to understand that.
Would you have left him to as his many supposed disciples did?
If y’all are so bound and determined to
believe what Jesus said and taught,
are you still calling your priests “Father?”
Aren't you the same FRiend that chastised me for...
changing the subject?
;)
53 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat THE FLESH OF THE SON OF MAN and drink his blood, you have no life in you... Just exactly - or how many times do you need Christ to tell you to Eat His Flesh for Life within in Him? Beside by teaching that one must Eat the eucharistic to obtain life within in him, then this means that you also must be one of the TradCaths that reject Lumen Gentium 16 of Vatican Two which broadly affirms devout SS type trinitarian baptized Prots as having the Holy Spirit, the absolute fact that is that,
Nowhere in the NT interpretive of John 6, did anyone obtain spiritual life by literally eating any flesh, nor is the Lord's supper ever described as spiritual food. Instead, it is by effectually believing the word of God, the gospel, that one obtains spiritual life, (Acts 10:43-47; 15:7-9; Eph.. 1:13) and hereafter is live according to the word of God (Mt. 4:4) as Christ lived by the Father as per John 6:57, which was not by eating anything, but living by His word, with the doing of it being His "meat" as John tells us, (Jn. 4:34) thus consuming the word, letting the word of God dwell in them richly, and thereby teach others. (Col. 3:16) which is the evident means whereby pastors feed the flock. (Acts 20:28; cf. 2 Timothy 4:2) For as per Jn. 6:63, it is the word of that is referred to as spiritual food, as "milk" (1Pt. 2:2) and "meat" Heb. 5:12-14 by which one is nourished (1Tim. 4:6) and built up, (Acts 20:32)
But the carnally minded reject this, "having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart," (Ephesians 4:18), like as such did regarding Christ being the temple, (John 2:20) and instead choose a christ whose appearance does not corresponded to what He materially was, which manifestly incarnated Christ of Scripture looked, felt, etc. and would taste and would scientifically test to be human flesh. And which manifest physicality is emphasized in Scripture, in contrast to a Docetist-type Christ, whose appearance did not correspond to what He physically was, meaning a metaphysical meaning.
Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away? Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life. (John 6:67-68)
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:14-16)
To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. (Acts 10:43-44) ... Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. (Acts 11:16) Then answered Peter, Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? (Acts 10:46-47)
And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe. And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. (Acts 15:7-9)
The End.
