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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Jesus even said the flesh doesn't help at all because it's the SPIRIT who gives life.

He said, Himself, that what He said was metaphor.

John 6:63 The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you—they are full of the Spirit and life.

25 posted on 10/02/2023 2:13:31 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: metmom

My favorite catholic who is still learning how to understand the Bible.

So you believe that the flesh of Jesus who died for your sins doesn’t help at all? That is amazing! Jesus flesh does give life to the world. John 6:51; Eph 2:13-16

Perhaps, we might consider that John 6:63 should be understood as the human reason’s inability to comprehend revealed truths apart from faith in contrast to the Holy Spirit’s ability to enlighten our minds.

So do you believe that Jesus as God can’t give us a gift of his flesh and blood as transubstantiated from bread and wine for our consumption and eternal life?

Yes, the words that Jesus has spoken are spirit and Life: “Truly, truly I say to you unless you eat the flesh of the Son man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and i will raise him on the last day.” (6:53-54)

It was very clear in John that all believed the literal words of Jesus to eat his flesh and drink his blood. Peter said “we have believed, and have come to know, that you are the Holy One of God.”

Everyone has the choice to believe Jesus or to follow man’s words of interpretation. Sacred tradition and Sacred Scripture of the words of Jesus have been followed except for the protestant religions.


35 posted on 10/02/2023 3:51:48 PM PDT by ADSUM ( )
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To: metmom
And in every interaction we see between Jesus and people in the NT not once do we see Him offer His actual blood to consume as a requirement for salvation.

When He was being crucified there are zero accounts of anyone trying to capture His blood.

Same goes for after He was crucified. No accounts of anyone capturing the blood or flesh for consumption.

IF, as Roman Catholicism claims, it was a literal requirement and was understood as such by the disciples or His followers, there should be accounts of people attempting to get His blood and flesh.

Yet, we have zero accounts of this happening in the New Testament.

46 posted on 10/02/2023 5:52:36 PM PDT by ealgeone
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